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Hi Hulda.. That’s fantastic that you’re building relations in this way locally, in your own personal sphere.. That’s where it begins in my view, in personal relationships.. It’s instructive what you’re doing.. At the very least, you could say it’s good practice, in leading up to a total shift to the land and group dynamics..

Personally, I’m working on putting together something locally to start relating to others in a genuine and authentic way.. A friend and I are negotiating putting together a landscape-garden design service, not as a business, but as a voluntary, free-of-charge service, for sake of being of service to others and building relations.. We will take donations, of course, but that’s not the point.. And part of it is so that we can experiment and build our skills more, and move into areas we haven’t cultivated yet — such as for me, self-regenerating perennial food-producing gardens — (i.e. “food forests”).. I got a lot under my belt, but a vastness still to learn and cultivate.. We’re gonna start by setting up a table, come springtime, on the sidewalk outside the local farmer’s market, and set out a load of potted plants with a sign that says “Free plants”, and another that says “Free garden design service”.. That should attract some good folks.. ?

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I hear ya as well, Gerald.. I’m of limited resources myself, and even if I could secure my own land purchase, as you say, I’d still grow it out as a group homestead.. I could go it alone, to a degree, but so much more can be achieved in synergy and collaboration..

And it’s almost entirely why I joined this site in fact.. With the discussions on AV about building out locally, and the building of a vision that is so aligned with my own, it seemed like this is the best spot to find the like-minded, those on the same page, a tribe, etc.. ?

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Oh nice, thanks.. Seeing someone else’s jig will be very helpful to show how to put these together with precision.. Thanks for that..

I was also just thinking earlier how one would be able to pull off curved shapes with precision.. You could draw curves onto wood and cut those out and mount them, and then bend the wire to form.. Someone also mentioned he uses a 3D printer.. I don’t know much about those, but my understanding is you can put in a mathematical formula and it’ll print in whatever material you give it to use.. That would be precise and allow for things not easily drawn by hand..

I’m gonna have to learn more about bending copper/metal rods as well, as I’ve never done so.. I know bendability is based on how the metal was processed, such as annealing to make it bendable.. I’m just getting up to speed on specifics, but I’m guessing bendable rods are available, as are stiff ones.. (Thinking outloud here).. ? Thanks Hal..

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Hi Hal.. That’s awesome!.. Yes, I have seen a few fractal antenna ideas, but nothing deployed out in a garden.. Originally, when I found Electroculture, I naturally imagined antennas made of these types of patterns, or cymatic patterns, or even basic polygonal shapes (perhaps combined with each other).. My first inclination (how I visualized it), was to deploy them horizontally around a plant so the plant grew up through the middle of them (kinda like a Lakhovsky coil), with the antenna attached to vertical metallic rods that would be staked into the ground.. That idea was completely intuitive..

Another idea was to take these fractal/cymatic patterns and make them 3-dimensional, instead of 2-dimensional.. So, with the example of this design of yours here, say you made 3 of them and then connected them together at the top-most point, so that the antenna as a whole would occupy the space in the same way a sphere would.. (In this case, if you were to look down on it from the top, the 3 antennas attached to each other would appear as a 6-pointed asterisk)..

I’m personally not set up for cutting and soldering metal rods, but I’m starting to think that would be a good investment.. And the ideas are endless.. I was actually cooking up a garden sculpture idea the other night that morphed into an elaborate electro-antenna with the kitchen sink thrown in.. I posted that in another thread.. Of course, just ideas being thrown around..

Thanks for posting this.. Love the ideas, and the inspiration to start fashioning metal rods into forms.. What’s your set-up for doing so??

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Absolutely!.. Glad to give you the reminder.. ?

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Oh I think I could help with that choreography!.. In fact, gonna go back and listen to the song again!… ?

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Wow.. Love all of it.. So many ideas.. And not surprised you’re using 51 degrees.. Just last night I was imagining a tall garden sculpture that quickly morphed into an electro-antenna.. It was inspired by this dried flower spike I have from an Agave plant.. This flower spike and all it’s side branches and spacing of where the flowers bloomed is embedded with mathematical relationships that I have yet to fully uncover — (gonna have to get out the ruler and calculator and dig into it in earnest).. It’s like a living fractal pattern.. So far I see the number/percentage of 51, and I’ve been able to identify Golden Ratio relationships and then hung some ornaments at those points to create a Golden Spiral that winds up the height of the spike..

So that’s what inspired this electro-antenna I’m working out in my head.. So far it involves the master number 9, 51 degrees, the Royal cubit, an upward expanding Golden Spiral of crystals, and possibly a hyperbolic cone off the top that terminates as a spire, maybe with a globe in there as well, or maybe just a pyramid.. That’s why I was contemplating how I could possibly fashion out a hyperbolic curve.. Yep — throwing in the kitchen sink.. Crazy.. Lol.. ?

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Ah yes, well that answers my question about the 3D printer.. I look forward to seeing how all that’s done.. I was just thinking last night about how one could fashion a hyperbolic cone, and it would seem very difficult by hand, so maybe a printer could be useful there.. I don’t know much about them, so not sure..

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Wow, you’ve gone all in on it, and quickly.. Soon as I get out into an open garden again, I’m gonna use the approach of galvanized steel wires underground as well, threaded with magnets, and connect that up to a tall antenna.. I’m particularly drawn to the designs of Chris Winters regarding this, though I’m gonna be more creative with it for sure.. I’m gonna be using crystals too I think, or want to figure a creative way to do that..

One of the things I want to get to is crushed basalt rock inside of copper pipes, as you’re doing.. And I’m interested to hear how the 3D printer works to make round towers, how that plays in the construction process..

One of the big stand outs in my control experiment last summer was my use of a Lakhovsky Cubit Coil (which was a Lakhovsky circuit based on cubit dimensions).. Once I deployed it on my Broccoli plant, situated at 30 degrees, pointing north, the plant took off in growth.. It was undeniable, with massive root growth as well..

I’m looking forward to your photos!.. ?

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Nick.. Thanks for posting these.. The fact that these lectures had been reposted on another channel with Q+A’s tacked on at the end seems to have escaped me.. This is even more helpful.. Very good.. Thank you , kind sir.. ?

Say, what kind of hardware did you acquire from Yannick??

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Oh, I like this.. Country is my jam.. Something about his quality is reminding me strongly of a popular recording artist (someone you’d hear on the radio).. I can’t put my finger on who he’s reminding me of… hmmmm…

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Oh wow, I just learn a new plant — Kangkong.. Don’t think I’d heard of that one.. What I saw is that it’s a tropical plant.. Do you know if it can be grown as an annual outside in temperate N. America??

And perhaps the results of my study could give you some information or inspiration, at the very least on how *not* to do it.. I had some missteps and it was a learn-as-I-go situation, but now I’m better prepared on how to conduct a really legitimate scientific study.. I’m thinking about doing another one this coming season, but the big thing is I need to reduce the number of species in the study, so I can keep a handle on it.. Plus devise better measurement strategies, etc. etc.. Not sure if it will happen though, as I want to expand into more complex antenna configurations, and not sure I can pull that off in a potted garden, or get my ducks in a row in the next couple months.. But we’ll see!… (And I too saw differences with my Thai chile plants).. ?

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That’s so good to hear that you saw a clear reduction in the slug population.. I’ve heard many people say this and I’m looking forward to being back out into an open garden so I can see this for myself as well.. Slugs really are an issue, especially with veggies, and all the “tricks” like beer traps just don’t work in my experience.. What you say about the iron in the soil is probably a part of the slug problem.. and most likely, a decrease in slugs has to do also with increased energy in the soil, making soil microbes more healthy, and creating a healthier environment overall, so the slugs just don’t move in.. If you think of slugs as a clean-up crew, or at least opportunists that take advantage of less-healthy conditions, it makes sense.. And the way they targeted your potted plants that weren’t doing so well points to that..

What kind of antennas did you put in your garden??..

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Oh nice!.. Thanks for posting this.. It is interesting when you see results that indicate an obvious influence, and in other cases not so much.. There’s one researcher who noticed the same thing over time with his experimentation and spoke about it in one of his videos.. He suspects it has to do with the specific species and their specific biochemistry and such.. Of course soil and all the other factors are part of the equation as well..

I conducted a control experiment this past summer with 10 different species and I saw these kinds of mixed results, which I suspect were due to how the individual species respond to an antenna stuck in the soil — in some cases, dramatic differences.. in other cases, no differences.. I drafted documentation of the experiment with lots of photos.. I’m gonna share the link to that here real soon, and I’m excited to do so.. In the meantime, I thought I’d share a couple photos of the more dramatic differences I saw.. (In the photos, the control container is on the left).. ?

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