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Barry MurrayMemberHi Leigh-Anne,
I worked as a Sports Nutritionist for over 10yrs and have probably overdosed on the subject of pre/post workout !
What I will say, as I drifted more into things like circadian biology and quantum biology I realized that food wasn’t really the main player when it came to bodily function. So definitely focus on what Mike and Barre have shared already in this regard – sunlight first thing, grounding, breathwork etc.
I also drifted away from the standard dietary stuff and became much more of an advocate for a higher fat lower carb paleo type diet. I combined this with fasted training (so there’s my pre workout advice 😉 ) and cold adaptation. But to cover your bases “post workout” , just eating some wholefood like meat/fish/eggs with veg is probably all you need. You can go down the route of all the “shakes” and calculating your protein and carb intake based on grammes/body weight but sticking with foods as found in their natural state always wins.
I did all sorts of sports and raced triathlons, cycling, and then mainly ultramarathons for years. As I hit my 40’s I realized that recovery was slower so I’m with Mike in terms of simply giving the body more rest than you would have in your earlier years ! I think I saw another thread for surfers recovery, and some mentioned how with age it becomes even more important to focus on doing more weight training/S&C. That in itself would improve your recovery.
Best of luck
Barry
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Barry MurrayMemberJust came across a holistic dentist in the UK . He happens to have his own podcast and is also “awake” it seems .
Lots of topics covered ;
https://www.dr-elmar-jung.com/elmars-tooth-talk/
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Barry MurrayMemberplenty of good dental health recommendations here. It seems to be my Achilles heel too, peridontal “dis-ease”, to be specific. I was told several years ago that I had receding gums but I took a more “self determination” approach and just sort of ignored it as it wasn’t causing me any problems. I have been following a sort of LCHF paleo type diet for over 10yrs, I’ve been competing in trail/mountain running, and I have been following as “anti-inflammtory” lifestyle as I can. Yet, a recent scan a few months ago showed “high risk” receding gums and bone loss.
The dentist claims there is no cure. They also don’t seem to know what the cause is other than just saying “its genetic” or that you are just one of the susceptible ones (to build up of calculus).
I have not found or ever spoken to a holistic dentist and my dentists so far are your typical allopathetic type.
So its been a frustrating journey given my preference for the bioterrain approach and how I have not had any other major medical issues in my 45yrs so far.
I have been oil pulling for years on and off. I look forward to trying the new AV product. I’ve used various other ointments and mouthwashes containing tea tree, clove oils, neem etc. I even went through a period of using sodium peroxide . I’m a Capricorn, so I am taking extra Calc Phosphate now also.
So I’d be interested to hear if anyone has any other recommendations. Also, maybe Barre knows, but I’d be interested to know more about the potential causes of gum disease and the mechanisms behind curing it from a bioterrain perspective.
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January 24, 2024 at 1:50 am in reply to: The End of Medical Mythology w/ Barre Lando & Mike Winner #381358
Barry MurrayMemberCount me in . Part I and II should be part of the curriculum for any students studying medicine !
They are the sort of podcasts that you need to rewatch and take notes . So much to learn and I’ve been in this game myself for almost 15yrs. I do also possess a club bell ?
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Barry MurrayMemberInteresting, good to know , can you do drone delivery across the Atlantic to west of Ireland ?? 😉
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Barry MurrayMemberHi Michael,
Interesting, I’ve known about xylitol as a natural sweetener , but never knew it’s use relating to gum/dental health . I’ll add it to the list , cheers .
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Barry MurrayMemberHi Leigh-Anne,
Sorry , don’t log on here that often .
You’re right , there definitely is a more middle way to approach nutrition . I’m not sure “middle” is the right word and some might think that means “everything in moderation “ . However , I would be more in favor of saying that a more “balanced” way can be used . That first means just getting on a “real food” diet , then eating in a way that suits your context , but then more importantly realizing that health/performance is governed more by none food related factors such as light , water, magnetism (grounding , nnEMF, cold adaptation), mindset etc .
I spent 15yrs working in elite sport , I lived in Italy for a couple of years working with Tour de France cyclists , and worked with various other athlete at Olympic level . I trained a lot mysejf and competed in endurance sports – triathlon, cycling , distance running .. I settled on ultra trail running and raced a lot of the big ultramarathon events and won several races . I was really focused on my nutrition at the time and delved deep into what I called “fat adaptations “ .
However , what I will tell you here after many years of practicing it all and studying it intensely myself is that what you eat is really not as important as it appears … and that all of the holistic approaches that AV and others similar recommend are what you should truly be focusing on optimizing . That took me many years to comprehend and accept but it really is the truth !
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Barry MurrayMemberSounds like you have found the right balance. I also spent many years really avoiding carbs stringently and that does work against you long term. But you can be clever with them using timing, mainly consuming them with the post workout meal, avoiding the processed grains, and generally keeping to a lowish amount if it suits you better. You can cycle them even and consume more on your big training days. The seasonal aspect and light cycles is another step to take too maybe. Eating the same foods all year makes on sense although that’s what most of us do. With more UV sunlight in the summer months, it allows us to tolerate carbs better and vice versa, where winter would be more protein/fats .
I’m not into calculating things but keeping on top of your protein intake is something you could do. For strength type athletes, the higher intakes are 1.5g-2g/Kg of body weight. On the fat front , I learned a long time ago that its our friend ! Over here in Ireland, our butter and “green” grass fed animal foods are hard to resist !
You’re on the right track especially now that you have experience with finding out what does and doesn’t work for you. That’s what it comes down to, N=1 !
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Barry MurrayMemberHi Eliza,
I listened to that alfacast and I too was impressed with the reports on MB. I have used it myself although I have not found any benefits. However, my original post was regarding the article linked which shows harms associated with taking MB. I wanted to see if anyone knew about these studies and whether or not they could be just written off as “fake news”. For example, an NIH study here showing how MB used on mice and rats caused tumors. https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/sites/default/files/ntp/htdocs/lt_rpts/tr540.pdf
So I know MB is considered beneficial and recommended by Barre and lots of others on our side. I simply wanted to verify if these studies reporting the harms had any validity.
ntp.niehs.nih.gov
TR-540 Toxicology and Carcinogenesis Studies of Methylene Blue Trihydrate (CAS No. 7220-79-3) in F344/N Rats and B6C3F1Mice (gavage studies)
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Barry MurrayMemberInteresting Erin , thanks for sharing .. will look into LANAP .. I know of DMSO too . Good to hear you are seeing your gums regenerate… crazy that the standard dentist thinks this is impossible . Sure we’ll keep this thread going as it’s ultimately an unsolved mystery of a health issue , so let us know how you get on in May !
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Barry MurrayMemberTrue Paul , however , there are still plenty of studies indicating it’s harm both in theory and in practice . What we would need to do is debunk those studies which as of yet I haven’t done . I would be the first to agree that if the authorities deem it to be ineffective and harmful , then it’s probably isn’t . However , we do need to be as skeptical towards supplements as we are against “approved” pharma drugs and medicines .
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Barry MurrayMemberInteresting @erin.young , at least you have been able to find a holistic dentist ., they are few and far between here in Ireland. So I guess you recommend this LANAP treatment , along with all your own therapies and supplements ?
It seems to be a big grey area . The fact that lanap claims to regenerate gum tissue and bone contradicts what the standard allopathic dentist says .
It’s also frustrating when you’ve been on a healthy lifestyle bioterrain type of journey . I look at others drinking coke, eating processed crap etc and they have no periodontal issues !!?
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