Thinking and Destiny

[Mike]

Hey guys I interviewed with Beth Martens today on Thinking & Destiny. Man it’s such a deep & different cosmology to explain! Beth was doing her best to follow and in the end I think we got to a practical innerstanding of how Percival can help us grow and self-govern towards a proper path in life ?

https://www.youtube.com/live/ATNBAygcudc?si=5ypPuUn2Oy2iaiuH

Discussion

[valjwolf]

You were brilliant Mike. Thank you for opening this doorway .

[Mike]

Ahh thanks Valerie!

[SeeBee]

This interview was Mind-Blowingly AWESOME. I was not familiar with Percival material, but you presented in such a way I actually got some of it!

Are our Avatars arbitrary? For example, is being a man or woman in this iteration random or specific to lessons to be learned as DOERS? You mentioned afflictions may be part of the journey, but are there other clues within the specific avatar we inhabit?

Thank you, Mike. Your explanations of really complex concepts were fantastic. Although, I will watch multiple times….

[Mike]

Nothing is arbitrary 🙂 all is caused by our thinking in current, past and future selves. From what I innerstand, we inhabit the specific polarity of Doer due to the imbalance we have with our thinking (and doing)…so if we are heavily desire-focused we will come back Female to re-engage feeling and come to balance. In any lifespan we always have the opportunity to achieve complete balance and re-emerge as our Triune self in the Realm of Permanence. What some traditions in the past have called ‘ascension’.

[Ed]

Hi Mike, we started a conversation on Telegram a bit ago, and you suggested joining this group as a better place to learn and discuss Percival. I think you may have misunderstood my intent at the time, certainly not to criticize Percival, I have only now begun to read Thinking and Destiny. At the time I was responding to the Beth Martens interview and your discussion there of Percival’s work. Perhaps the best place to restart this conversation is to quote from the Percival’s introduction in Thinking and Destiny,

“November of 1892 I passed through astonishing and crucial experiences, following which, in the spring of 1893, there occurred the most extraordinary event of my life. I had crossed 14th Street at 4th Avenue, in New York City. Cars and people were hurrying by. While stepping up to the northeast corner curbstone, Light, greater than that of myriads of suns opened in the center of my head. In that instant or point, eternities were apprehended. There was no time. Distance and dimensions were not in evidence. Nature was composed of units. I was conscious of the units of nature and of units as Intelligences. Within and beyond, so to say, there were greater and lesser Lights; the greater pervading the lesser Lights, which revealed the different kinds of units. The Lights were not of nature; they were Lights as Intelligences, Conscious Lights. Compared with the brightness or lightness of those Lights, the surrounding sunlight was a dense fog. And in and through all Lights and units and objects I was conscious of the Presence of Consciousness. I was conscious of Consciousness as the Ultimate and Absolute Reality, and conscious of the relation of things. I experienced no thrills, emotions, or ecstasy. Words fail utterly to describe or explain CONSCIOUSNESS..”

So much packed into this perfect statement. My initial conversation with you was only meant to point out that sometimes I think Percival’s revelation of consciousness is lost as we begin to explore our functional realm, and begin to dissect it, much as we tend to discuss such things as the aether or the vibratory nature of the cosmos or matter or the field, our terrain, the shape of the earth, as if these topics represent some-thing that exists independently, outside consciousness. But as Percival reminds us, all is consciousness, and more importantly, we are that same consciousness that we know more intimately that any-thing, in our simple, most intimate ‘experience’ of being aware. Without this knowledge our attempts to liberate ourselves from materialism are futile, often just replaced by another delusion, spiritual materialism.

I come to this discussion primarily from the teachings of non-dual Saivism, but also Anthroposophy, and more recently, your work with Alfa Vedic, the New Biology, as a very practical expression in the healing of this realm, all of which seems to perfectly align with this line of inquiry here as we explore Thinking and Destiny.

Ed

[Mike]

Yes exactly! Sorry if I misconstrued anything over there, Telegram is a bit more chaotic and I take less time to engage since this is my priority here.

[SeeBee]

I visited the location where Percival encountered his first illumination. I was hoping enlightening would strike twice.

[Eliza]

Bee-bae! That’s sooo funny haha! ? fyi – I finally purchased the hard copy folks! I’d been skipping around reading all the good bits and listening to the wonderful word foundation…but i just knew that it was time to join ya’ll in this exciting journey.

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[Mike]

Lovely!

[Mike]

Haha nice one… the beautiful thing is that any of us can have that experience anywhere in the world at any time or place if everything lines up correctly

[Ed]

Hi Mike. Interested if there is a formal or informal study group on this topic or just posting here. And please see the attached since I can’t seem to copy and paste into this window.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by  Ed.

[Ed]

Mike, I just posted something here to you with an attachment. It appears we can’t copy and paste text into the post, only compose a message within the post window. Is this right? Is there some trick to just copy and pasting into the post. I often write in Word first which is easier. And in reviewing my post is seems we can’t open an attachment from within the post, but only download it? Is this true? Thanks.

[Mike]

Copy and paste has always worked for me!! Not sure what the issues is you’re having. What device are you on?

[Ed]

On a iMac. Just now found if instead using the short cut, Ctrl V, to paste, I go to the edit menu in Brave and I select Paste it works. Interesting.

[Mike]

Control click can also bring up copy/paste option

[SeeBee]

<div>I purchased copies of Thinking and Destiny from The Word Foundation (h/t Mike). And forwarded them your video with Beth Martens.</div>

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[Mike]

Wow nice thanks!

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