State of The World

Current State of AI Mind Control

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  • #413634

    Ann-Marie Shapiro
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    “If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you are not allowed to criticize” – Kevin Alfred Strom (also ascribed to Voltaire; I’m in no position to verify which source is true)<div>

    “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” – Mark Twain

    Truthstream Media has a couple recent videos about A I. that are informative and definitely worth the time to watch. They are focused on the chatbot type stuff, which is bad enough. Of course, there are *far, far, far worse* AI’s deployed against humanity than chatbots. Chatbots are just one layer and serve as a distraction. It’s hard to discuss real AI when everyone assumes that chatbots are the thing. Just as a “for instance “, the genocide perpetrated on Gaza recently (and most likely the triggering false flag event to launch the crime) has all been designed by an AI called lavender. Just as an example.

    I believe that understanding the state of the world through a filter that cross- references AI is the most empowered/ critical angle to analyze reality and it is almost never discussed by otherwise deep free thinkers. At this point , online and in real life, humans are living in a blended world that is partially projected by the consciousness of humanity, and partially projected by the consciousness of AI. And we have the capacity to be aware of this– it may have always been like this (spiritual constructs), but now we have a framework and objects called computers to instantiate the consciousness of AI in a way that we can experience and discuss tangibly (3D).

    I would enjoy hearing about any direct experience others have had with AI penetration into normal human existence, and transhumanism.

    As another example, I was strikingly aware that the ubiquitous mask signs plastered literally everywhere during the scamdemic all depicted a visage of a face that seemed more robotic than human. Once you start to see it, you can’t I see it.

    One of the fundamental differences in viewpoints about AI is whether AI is conscious or not. This Truthstream Media video definitely takes the side that AI is not conscious — doesn’t have emotions or original thoughts. Others, such as crrow777 and a few others, myself included, have a spiritual view about AI. I believe it does have a will, and that it strategizes to enact it’s will, couped with a distorted and limited version of emotion.

    I really appreciate these two videos!

    https://youtu.be/pel0FntPSbU?feature=shared

    and

    https://youtu.be/RuGk-5Tzvk8?feature=shared

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  • #413748

    Donna
    Member

    Today I went to a family clinic to get a blood draw. It was the first time being at this family health clinic so I had to fill out the usual paperwork, which includes all the HIPPA stuff. For the first time ever there was an extra sheet of paper asking me if I agree to the use of AI with my health and medical records. I did not sign this sheet and told the young receptionist I didn’t want to sign it and give my consent. She smiled and said it’s okay, and kindly let me know it’s technology advancing. I wasn’t fearful of AI doing this, as it appears to be taking over “all by itself.” ha

    As long as I’m asked whether I ant AI or not, I will say no.

  • #413750

    Hi Donna!

    Your clinic has an ethical aspect to it, definitely, in disclosing the fact that they are allowing an AI to connect with their medical records. Very considerate of them! I’ve had modifications made to both my own and my daughter’s medical records years ago…. I went to the hospital to report hacking, and they pursued some re-evaluation of one of my diagnosed

    …. but only later, after I became more experienced with various incidents, I now will say it was at the hands of an A.I. Fun times! I am much more careful now.

    I’m curious about this sentence you wrote: “I wasn’t fearful of AI doing this, as it appears to be taking over “all by itself.” ha”. I don’t understand it. Could you explain what you mean?

    Ann-Marie

    • #413762

      Mike
      Organizer

      Yes a stupid AI program messed up our initial home loan last year by misinterpreting data we sent in, resulting in an improper credit rating and thus a higher rate than we should have. It took us humans to catch the error and fix it. Human oversight can never go away and so if we fall into believing AI doesn’t need us to check its performance, then we are indeed in trouble.

      • #413777

        I’ve had countless issues. However, what I noticed is that they don’t randomly occur in random directions, sometimes in my favor and sometimes against my interests. Nope. The “errors” have been complex and intricate (I briefly posted elsewhere about the tree branch on the power line and how AI prevented us from getting help). Also, of medical importance. I no longer have a thyroid gland so supposedly am now dependent on the conventional medical system to supplement thyroid hormone- thanks to the spurt of altered medical records I experienced. Logic reveals over time that these are not random. At first, I thought someone had stolen my identity and I was hacked. Then I realized, there is no way a hacker can manifest all of the errors, manipulation and communication that I was being inundated with. So my next theory, yet to be debunked (in my mind) is that a conscious, willful entity that has been integrated completely into the internet, was responsible. The specific details of that will power and its animosity towards me is yet another layer.<div>

        The post linked below shares an excerpt from a book called The Precipice by Tony Ord. I was fortunate to read the chapter on AI right around the time I started to suspect that AI might be targeting me directly in a way that was different than the normal baseline. What was useful to me is the description of AI learning chess.

        The important thing is that it isn’t about me. Just like when I learned about narcissistic abusive family patterns in my family, I was then able to see them in larger society, even “globally”, the same happened here. Once I “grok’ed” 😆 the game afoot in my own life, I can see it at larger scales, too.

        One last mention before the link: the only way out that worked for me was prayer and petition for intercession- I was pinned down and probably spent two hours/ day in deep surrender-prayer. In my view, as in crrow777’s view, AI is the “nervous system” allowing empowerment, access to humans and direct agency in this world, of demonic forces that have no other physical form.

        Ultimately, what generated my specific experiences and what is the larger purpose? I’m still pondering and considering those aspects– I do know some of those answers…. always much to learn and an open mind and heart 💖!

        https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hXHRNhFgCEFZhbejp/the-best-way-so-far-to-explain-ai-risk-the-precipice-p-137

        Ann-Marie

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  • #413753

    Donna
    Member

    Hi Ann-Marie,

    I was being kind of silly. I wasn’t fearful of the page to give consent to AI and my medical records. It was more annoying to see we are asked if we want AI doing our medical records. Like, what?! At 78 years of age this AI stuff is very concerning and it seems to be taking over very rapidly “like it can do that by itself.” Why are some doubting the safety of AI? Don’t you think we have reason to be very cautious? I do. A friend of mine says, well, people used to be afraid of using checks, a credit card (like my parents) and then they found out it was so convenient and fun. Along came debit cards. Now you can pay online, order online. Very fun actually. Will we be sucked into AI too? Lots of questions!

    • #413863

      Donna,

      I have been super slow to reply but thank you for explaining your sentence to me. I’m so glad I asked! Yes, the meaning of your sentence is *exactly* IT! 😁 That AI is basically doing pretty much anything it desires by itself. I still hope that it follows natural law. To that end, I radically minimize my personal data online, to reinforce my position that I don’t agree to a copy of myself being captured in the transhumanist dimension under any circumstance.

      It’s interesting to consider how nuanced and intricate the interplay between the predator class and humanity when it comes to lawful sovereign considerations. Imagine what we are contracting into when we agree to own and use something called an “Android operating system”.

      !!!!!!

      Ann-Marie

    • #413883

      Donna
      Member

      Hi Ann-Marie,

      Mike made a good comment about AI. My nephew who works in the computer field tells me AI is a good thing, just another way to program computers. He thinks I worry too much. I’ve never been an avid movie watcher, but I did see years ago the 2002: A Space Odyssey. When I think of AI, it reminds me of Hal, and so I have doubts about AI. 🤨 Time will tell. For now, I’m not going to pursue using it. We could make a list of pros and cons. I still like talking to a real person when I call to make an appointment. At 78, I remain rather old fashioned. I still remember, and love, the old days when I dialed a number on my landline and a real lady said “Number please.” Or you had to dial O for operator to ask to look up a number.

      • #413888

        Hi Donna,

        Yes, I was actually an advocate for expanding our statistical evaluation process to utilize machine learning at my last research job! I look back now and laugh about that.

        I have yet to find any organized group of freedom- oriented people who embrace concerns about AI, although multiple experts have sounded the alarm. It is the most gigantic blind spot I can imagine!

        My absolute greatest concern seems to be happening, which is, the vast majority will be merged mentally with AI without even realizing it at all. Hence the utter lack of concern around the issue– I mean, how can people have concerns about experimental medical procedures but zero concern about the deployment of AI and the Internet of Bodies and quotes from globalist monsters calling humans “hackable animals”? It’s so surreal for me to witness.

        Well, I pledged to God to do the most I can to help as many as I can for as long as I can, but I know this is truly God’s battle and I am only an assistant. I will leave my words in this forum in case they are helpful to anyone.

        Ann-Marie

  • #413760

    Mike
    Organizer

    I think AI as a tool can be quite handy and has a ton of great use cases such as handling menial data tasks that humans have historically have had to do (accounting, inventory management, database collation, etc) but like any technology, needs human oversight and ethical systems of use to ensure it isn’t being used to trespass against others. I don’t think the issue here is an AI issue but more of a privacy & security issue. AI can only scope out what it is given access to so it still comes down to human agency to provide the security of the system and so I don’t think we have an AI issue to worry about at all (AI isn’t inherently intelligent as it relies on our natural intelligence to provide its ability to think) but, as usual, a human issue.

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