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Is the Sun cold? Does it have heat? Is it just a reflection of something?

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  • #393772

    maryschurr
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    This is a bit new to me. I’ve finished Anastasia, Book 1 of the Ringing Cedars Series. She speaks of the Sun as being a mirror, a reflection of the emanations of the people of the Earth. Pages 166-167. There are quotes from various people such as Dr. Georges Lakhovsky, Viktor Schauberger, Gurdjieff, Dr. Phillip Callahan, and more that the Sun is actually cold.

    Hmmm, well I have Lakhovsky’s book somewhere, but will have to locate it. But, I found the section of Gurdjieff to his son regarding the Sun and I must admit that I feel I have a zero brain (one, two, & three brain thought is discussed here) trying to weed through it, but he does seem to say the sun is cold. I know Gurdjieff is well regarded by many…I guess I am still a baby grasshopper. I am lost reading this. Here is Gurdjieff’s page of his book on this. https://gurdjieff.work/ae/chapters/chapter17.htm

    However, I located the Viktor Schauberger book by Callum Coats and I’ll attach it here. He does seem to say this as well. Page 78, but search Sun throughout the PDF. Living Energies by Callum Coats.

    I’d love to know what others think on this. Is the sun cold without hear? Or am I just totally missing something in all this?

    • This discussion was modified 11 months, 4 weeks ago by  maryschurr.
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  • #393775

    Dale
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    Funny you should ask. A late friend of mine who was a Consultant to NASA told me the story of the sun. They designed a special camera to take a thermal picture of the sun. When they first got the images back they couldn’t believe the results. According to the special camera the sun was covered in ice. They said the cameral malfunctioned and scuttled the program.

    • #393822

      maryschurr
      Member

      One of these quotes actually says that somewhere in the writing, I forget where and which one. That is crazy to hear, but helps a lot. How did they know this way back then when these were written?

  • #393779

    Kev
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    Hmmm, I’ve been contemplating the nature of the sun every evening.. I’ve taken up the practice of daily sunset sungazing.. I’m not in a position to see the sun right at the horizon (due to buttes and a forest tree line in the distance), so I gaze when the sun is still 10-15 degrees in the sky, and up to 20 degrees sometimes, in my estimation..

    Now that you bring up the question as to whether the sun is “hot” or not goes along with what I’m experiencing myself.. My technique involves looking to the sides of the sun disc, one eye at a time, and then slowly moving into the center of the disc, and then latching onto it and peering into or piercing into it with my gaze.. Even with this “adjustment”, at first you get that “blinding glare” that we all know, if we were to look directly at the sun.. We all know that’s intolerable and it imprints a “negative” on the retina.. But with a little adjustment and easing into it, the overwhelming glare dissipates in about 1-2 seconds, and then you see a big round bright haze in the sky, which is quite yummy.. and then as you focus into the disc, the haze dissipates, moves out into the periphery, and then you can gaze right into the disc without discomfort, and I would say it’s quite captivating.. At that point you can see the disc vibrating, with a distinct circular border around the edge that exhibits a sort of light show with a light that oscillates around the circumference.. There are also rays that appear sometimes, and refracted rainbow light that dances on the ray bands in yummy mathematical patterns.. So I do one eye at a time, and then do full-on both eyes..

    So I would say this, just looking through the lens of official science – if the blinding glare is a direct expression of how much energy the sun puts out (which would include heat), then it shouldn’t “dissipate” or become subdued when you gaze into it.. I would agree that the sun is a reflection of us, and in these sungazing times, I connect right into it, and there’s an exchange that occurs with energy emanating from my eyes and body and interacting and integrating with the energy coming from the disc.. I’ve begun to develop a relationship with the sun I didn’t know was possible.. In fact, in the early days I would chant the mantra: “The source and fuel of life does not do harm”, just in the spirit of flushing away the bullshit program that the sun is a source of harm.. I don’t do that anymore, as I am fully in trust of the relationship.. But no, I don’t think the energy output is essentially constant with a massive infrared heat output.. There’s way more to it than that, and that’s self-evident.. That’s all mechanical, reductionist, chemistry, atomic model nonsense anyways, as if the universe is a harsh, lifeless, soulless thing that can be measured and must be feared, and that that perspective is actually legitimate and correct to begin with..

    But, it does beg the question why we experience it as a heat source, or seem to perceive it as a heat source.. What creates that illusion??.. Seems to be many ways to come at it.. Would start with the question what the hell the sun is anyways..

    Update: I wrote the above 4 paragraphs right before this evening’s sungazing sesh.. I was so inspired by how Anastasia affirms what I’ve been discovering for myself – the sun is a reflection of ourselves and there’s a relationship there.. So this evening I didn’t do the “ease into it” portion.. I just went straight to gazing right into the disc when it was about 15 degrees in the sky.. No glare, no having to look away, just pierced right into the disc.. And I will also point out that after I gaze directly for several minutes, the “imprint” on the retina is a light yellow glowing round shape that dissipates pretty quickly.. At first, it was a little more of that harsh negative imprint (that for a Normal person, would be disconcerting), but now that I’m adjusted, it’s really nothing at this point.. But also, have yet to do a really really long session.. Lol.. 🤠

    So there’s 2 or 3 or 7 cents for you..

    🤩

  • #393790

    Eliza
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    Awesome @kev and @Sharpshooter my neighbor bro! Good to you’re shining bright, as always. For this…I would refer to gigi young as well – no?

  • #393815

    Sherri
    Member

    Hi Mary,

    I’ve heard Zach Bush say this. I can’t remember where or when. I believe he said the sun itself is not hot but something occurs in the atmosphere surrounding it which creates heat. So interesting…

    • #393826

      barre
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      The Sun projects informational fields for every life-form within the Realm, as well as pure Cosmic rays designed to rejuvenate and illumine. The atmosphere has been tainted by the collective/cumulative discord of Man, thus creating friction & heat in reaction to plasma projections. The same inharmony altered the original water vapor canopy that maintained a perfect & comfortable environment in prior epochs.

      • #393829

        Kev
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        Oh nice, Barre.. Thanks for that.. The point that the sun projects unique informational fields for each lifeform in this realm completely makes sense — i.e. all lifeforms are unique, and so their relationship with the sun is unique, and so the resonant fields in the relationships are unique.. Thanks for that! — that puts to words something I hadn’t quite fleshed out yet explicitly..

        When I was responding last night, I couldn’t help think of Pier Luigi Ighina and his thoughts on and research regarding the sun, and capturing the energy.. I know nothing about his work, other than the common references to him in Electroculture, and that he worked with Marconi (and maybe worked with Lakhovsky too.. can’t remember, but I think that was the case).. I’m guessing you know his work to some degree.. But I do know he figured out that the sun emanates spiraling vortices of energy, and I think he characterized their resonant interaction with the Earth realm.. Don’t know anything more on that.. But the spiraling vortices is why he developed the “Ighina spiral” you see in Electroculture — the spiral being the shape best to capture the solar vortices.. 🌪

        And also, I’ve heard someone talk about the collapse of the vapor canopy due to human consciousness.. I’m thinking that was you, but I’m sure Breshears has looked through that lens on it as well..

  • #393823

    maryschurr
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    Thank you everyone! I was hoping to hear some opinions and there’s lots of interesting takes on this. I love it! Yes, Gigi talks about the Sun as one of Epochs as does Steiner (of course). Maybe, in her creation series on YT I would guess. But, it is said it was not the Sun we experience now (nor was Saturn or the Moon). But, now I want to look back and perhaps even ask that as a question of her. Would love to hear her thoughts. Thank you for bringing her up!
    The sun seems to send out rays and certainly good things to us. Interesting to think about the so called solar flares in terms of all this, too.

  • #393824

    barre
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    St. Germaine stated that the Sun was as cool & refreshing as a zephyr breeze. We might also consider that the Sun is a fractal of the “Great Central Sun” as is our electronic body several feet above the head. The unfed flame in the heart center is, likewise, a step-down of all of the above. Not sure about anyone else, but I’ve never felt my heart feel like it was burning up.

    • #393830

      Kev
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      Oh wow, and more wow.. Barre is “on fire” tonight.. Ha! Had to say it.. I’m loving this framework of understanding — fractalized step-down of creative life energy into the physical realm.. Sounds about right!.. And hey, I’ve always had a personal connection with that area above the head and its relationship to self — I’ve always roughly referred to it as my “higher self”, for lack of better words really and not fully knowing how to characterize it.. I often shift to that perspective just really naturally.. It’s like driving a car, when you shift your consciousness, and a half hour later you realize you weren’t present in the car.. My best moments are just walking down the street in contemplation and I go on autopilot and shift to that area above my head, and it’s a zone of knowing what’s what beyond rationality.. I’ve had a few experiences in life when I have looked down on my physical form and realized I was feeding myself important information, or seeing things I didn’t know were there.. I know, sounds whack to some, but hey, it is what it is.. Not sure that’s the sort of thing you were getting at, Barre, but that’s what came to mind..

      My heart has never burned or caught fire, but it has gotten pretty hot & impassioned, many times, right??.. So much so to be something along the lines of rocket fuel though.. Lol.. So yeah, good new perspective on the mechanics of it, if you will.. 🚀

  • #394004

    Mike
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    Favoriting this discussion for future reference!

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