Health & Wellness

[maryschurr]

Can some of you share your thoughts on whole house water filtering systems? I have a friend asking. I’ve heard some recommend Radiant Life, others Greenfield Naturals, I know the one Dr. Cowan really likes is hugely expensive, any others you guys know of? Thank you!

Discussion

[Jena]

YES MARY, I HAVE 4 SYSTEMS GOING IN MY HOUSE! THERE MUST BE AN EASIER WAY….I WOULD LOVE A DISCUSSION OF PROS AND CONSON THIS!

[Hulda]

Mary (and Jena), I’ve had a whole house water filter from Clean Water Revival (https://cwrenviro.com) since 2014, recommended to me by Paul Pitchford (Healing with Whole Foods). When I called, I got the science salesman, I think is his title. Chris Sudol (772-919-8704). While on the phone he looked up the annual water quality report of company I contract with. On that basis he recommended I get a 3-tower point-of-use filter (wasn’t looking at whole house at the time): 2 Heavy Metal and 1 VOC Filter. Paul had told me that when he got his, he ran water through it and took it to be tested: Everything that shouldn’t be there wasn’t, everything that should be (like minerals) was.

So I got a 3-tower countertop system in the spring. In the summer I got the whole house system. Both are needed, as the whole house filters remove sediment as well as chemicals, while the point-of-use is necessary cuz the water travels through pipes to get to it. I’ve sent numbers of folks to CWR over the years and if you mention my name, I think you’ll get a 5% discount on your first order. (No kickback, other than they keep giving me a discount.)

I stopped using the countertop system some time after getting an AquaEnergizer water structuring device from https://TheWellnessEnterprise.com/product/aqua-energizer-portable-structured-water-device) cuz it deals with the energetics, water memory of them nasty chemicals, whereas filters don’t. So I have a foot in each world. I got the portable AquaEnergizer cuz I can use it at the sink or take it with me, which I do 2x. The AquaEnergizer is a copper pipe impregnated with ocean water inside & out (for the minerals) and is stuffed inside with 11 layers of crystals.

That’s all I know.

[Amber]

I took a functional medicine class (the doctor recommended this place) ten years ago and have been using this system since. Jeff is the guy to ask for. Inexpensive. We have the whole house water filter-doesn’t remove fluoride but then reverse osmosis for drinking water and have the mineral filter to add minerals back in. Very inexpensive comparatively, but we have been happy. He’s a very factual guy. Kind but not warm and snuggly-just fyi.

https://www.pure-earth.com/

pure-earth.com

Water Filters, Water Purifiers and Water Softeners

We sell a complete line of water filters, water purifiers, reverse osmosis and water softeners

[Hulda]

PS The Clear Water Revival filters remove fluoride and chloramine, the latter of which is difficult to remove and, as I hear, not done by many filters. But CWR is likely pricyer than than the one Amber likes.

If it’s a matter of budget (for whom is it not?), I recommend a high quality water structuring device. the AquaEnergizer is expensive – $600 – but it’s a one-time investment. No filters or other parts to replace.

[maryschurr]

Thank you both! Lots of good info. I think I had read/heard about the Aqua Energizer before. The webpage seems familiar to me. Maybe, through Dr. Cowan? Either way I appreciate having all of this. Water just wasn’t meant to be this complicated, was it!!??

[Jena]

WOW THANKS HULDA N AMBER….MUCH TO CONSIDER….FREQUENCY IS HUGE TOO.

[barre]

Water distillers are relatively inexpensive, and you all may want to consider the following:

1) DW is the simplest method to purify water as it mimics Nature’s evaporation-precipitation process,

2) DW is the highest energy state of water as the release of other bound elements liberate the immense energy stores innate to the H2O complex,

3) DW is infinitely more capable of transporting minerals to the cells and tissues,

4) DW is a superior surfactant to support the natural cleansing of the the intra-inter cellular matrix,

5) Plant-based chelated minerals are the source for all of the bioavailable elements that the body needs, not minerals from water that can actually build accretions depending on the water source,

6) DW most effectively removes pharmaceutical and hormone disruptors from pesticides etc.,

7) the liver uses 3 to 4 ounces of pure (distilled) water every hour to manufacture the primary products the body needs for proper function. DW greatly reduces the amount of energy required to render water usable by the liver thus conserving energy the body needs to function and repair itself … 3 to 4 ounces of DW water per hour were standard protocols in my clinic that worked brilliantly in the management of severe illness and also for health maintenance, athletic performance etc.

8) DW is the most non-conductive water, which is most amenable to balancing the body’s “ground current” (Line of Resistance) that will ultimately reverse disease & aging when adjusted to yield a consistent net energy gain. There are more reasons, but all of the above are what I have experienced in the management of literally 1000s of clinical cases over many years that I was also able to quantify thru Biological Ionization testing on every patient.

The mythology that DW depletes minerals is the exact opposite of the truth; this is substantiated throughout history in many elevated civilizations where rain water was routinely sought as a preferable water for consumption. It’s also why DW is considered the holy grail of medicine within the Alchemical sciences.

This April when Aries is at its zenith I will be collecting gallons of rain water to make 12 distinct factions from the same water, each with distinct characteristics and medical properties, while adding nothing, and achieving results solely through different laboratory processes.

My favorite water distiller: https://eagle-research.com/product/waterlovers-distiller-2800mkii/

Another interesting distiller to investigate that has the capacity to remove the toxic energetic emotional imprints imparted to water as it travels through the collective bodies of humanity and persists in municipal water systems: https://johnellis.com/

[Hulda]

This is fantastic information, Barre. I’m considering not replacing my CWR filters when they come “due”. I was surprised by your distiller recommendations, as I recall your having recommended H2O Labs, which is what I got when I got my AquaCure. I’ll ponder whether to add the 2800MKII .WaterLovers Distiller. Perhaps I’ll make my H2O Labs distiller available to my steward.

[barre]

The Water Lover machine is what I use, and I still like it. I used the John Ellis a number of years back for an extended time, and I believe it’s legit, but … it is very labor intensive and requires external space that would best be set up in a laundry room sink or elsewhere away from the living space. Deb got tired of our kitchen looking like a laboratory. It’s also pricey, but I’ve considered setting one up again in my lab.

[Hulda]

Oh, perhaps it was George who recommended the H2O Labs distiller, a year or so ago. Apologies for the “accusation”.

Regarding the hourly 3-4 oz, izzat distilled water or could it be tea made with distilled water?

Grazi

[abram]

when you say “labor intensive” re: the jon ellis machine, what are the added steps/maintenance draw backs? are these machines a higher output of water/time? looking to purchase something of this nature and would love some experiential reflection on the nuts n bolts

[Hulda]

“DW is infinitely more capable of transporting minerals to the cells and tissues”

For a year or so I’ve had gold, silver and copper each in a glass bottle filled with distilled water that’s been run through my AquaEnergizer water structuring pipe. Can’t say that I’ve notice a difference, but maybe it’s doing something in the background? Or am I wasting my father’s wedding ring, a Kennedy half dollar and a pre-1982 penny together with a piece of copper wire stripped out of a length of romex?

[Hulda]

What about shower water? I’d like something to purify shower water if I give up my CWR whole house water filter. Any suggestions?

• This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by  Hulda.

[maryschurr]

Hulda, I just use a shower filter from Berkey currently. It seems to work well and never interfered with water pressure within the 1 year time period for use.

[Michael]

I use the Aquasana filter, it’s a two stage filter:

1. Activated Carbon: This section of the filter is made from eco-friendly and natural coconut shell carbon, which can help reduce chlorine and other harmful chemicals.
2. KDF: The KDF-55 copper-zinc layer helps to reduce chlorine as well, but it can also help reduce chloramine and enhance the water’s pH balance. KDF is also better at filtering water at higher temperatures, which is why it’s a great choice for shower water.

Water pressure is good.

https://www.aquasana.com/shower-head-water-filters/\

My only complaint is that it is sometimes hard to remove the filter to replace it.

aquasana.com

Easy Install Shower Filters for Chlorine Removal | Aquasana

Enjoy softer hair and skin with our award-winning shower filters. Our patented coconut shell carbon is proven to reduce 90% of chlorine from your water.

[maryschurr]

Thank you, Dr. Barre! That is exactly what I would like for myself (my friend needed a whole house recommendation). That looks about the size of my former AquaTru unit, so it should work well as far as size. Yes….space can be an issue.

[barre]

Here’s an additional pro tip for any of you desiring the ultimate water for health:

Mix 1 part litewater (deuterium-depleted) to 3 parts distilled water for 100% of consumed water including coffee, tea etc. 3 months to 1 year of this will greatly reduce the accumulation of heavy water which is Hydrogen with an extra neutron for those that still believe in atomic “theory”. This can better understood through wave form mechanics, but not the subject of discussion here. For those of you fortunate to have an AquaCure machine, add the litewater 1:3 with distilled water in the bubbler to achieve deuterium-reduced, hydrogen-rich water. There just may be a modular add-on to the AC in the near-future to actually make litewater at home. In the meantime, for those of you with too much $$$ on hand:

https://www.drinklitewater.com/

[Hulda]

Barre, I don’t get what you mean by “add the litewater 1:3 with distilled water in the bubbler to achieve deuterium-reduced, hydrogen-rich water“. Is that litewater that those with too much dough obtain from the link you provided, or are you saying that the AquaCure bubbler creates deuterium depleted/reduced water?

[barre]

George is working on a DDW modular add-on, but it’s not yet available. If you purchase LW just add 250 ml into 750 ml of your AC 1 litre bubbler. Litewater is uber expensive, so it won’t work for everyone.

[Gisele]

looking forward to that to add to the Aquacure I have so far. I also use distilled water since it was discussed in the AV telegram chat a while back and do the browns gas since the alfacasts with George Wiseman . we are learning by leaps and bounds. Thank You! ?

[abram]

it does seem they are asking quite a premium for DDW, are there a water systems for this already on the home market? i have tried the DDW for short periods of time through the gift of a friend, now am in a position to take further steps for the longer term and the thought of ordering water online puts me off a bit, attempting to need these kind of supply chain externalities less in life.

if you(y’all) were starting from baseline, and could afford a modest set up, which of these would you go with?

[abram]

p.s. we are on a well and rain water

[Gisele]

I started with a whole house vortex when I had house back in the 90’s:
https://www.alivewater.com/store/whole-house-models

then when I sold my house ( left it for the next owners) then I moved in an apt condo. i went to the models that you attach on the shower and the kitchen tap. I am still using it and in addition I distill water at home I live in a major city where the water comes from the lake. Mikael Lund of World Living Water Systems, I have talked to him in the past, great team he has( they came from europe and they do great research). he is in north vancouver, Canada. They started first to help farmers with water issues. you can check his sites and research. I am sure there is similar products based on Viktor Schauberger work, i love the materials they use.

alivewater.com

Whole House Models | World Living Water Systems Ltd.

The Whole House Vortex Water Revitalizers will transform the water throughout your entire home. Very reliable water treatment solution.

[abram]

thanks Gisele, with so many offers out there it is great to have some first hand experience to start with. we too use distilled water as a protocol for detox similar to what barre recommends earlier in the thread, the down side of the one we have, which operates well, is the time to run enough to keep up with our drinking habits…whole house is something we are considering for sure, though the ellis structuring and distillation is tempting

[abram]

we have a local company that has a water that we really love for similar purpose to litewater…

https://www.langenburgwater.com/pages/our-water

the guys there have been working on some truly amazing things in the background that i would love to tell y’all about in person… maybe at M&S

langenburgwater.com

Water:

Langenburg Oxygen Water Cobalt and Facial Sprays

[Ari]

🙂

[Amber]

Following

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[Hulda]

“something which can be used w/out power” – great idea Ari!

A search found:

H20 Labs Gravi-Stil Survival Water Distiller Desalinator Gravity Filter: “Stainless Steel non-electric water distiller for emergency water
purification or desalination.

Desalinate Ocean Water, Distill, Filter and Sterilize all pathogens and
remove salt from ocean water.

Stainless Steel Discharge Tube.

System transforms from a water distiller into a gravity water filter
system producing 4+ gallons of pure water per hour.

Standard Gravi-Stil system includes the patent pending auto-fill feature
allowing the system to run continuously. …

The Gravi-Stil Can Operate on Electric stoves, Gas Stoves, Propane
Burners, barbeque grills, wood stoves, rocket stoves, and fire pits…

Removes Fluoride, Chlorine, Heavy Metals, Radioactive Particles, Bacteria, Viruses, Protozoa, Salt, Pesticides, and Nitrates… [I’ve emailed them and asked whether it removes chloramine.]

Enhanced version has solar powered recirculating pump for faster operation and increased production.”

<div>$435 https://www.h2olabs.com/p-414-gravi-stil-survival-water-distiller.aspx?msclkid=f66040ad5b2e1ca6647425447c4f1fab – I have H20 Labs’ 300SS electric distiller: 1 gallon in 5-6 hours.

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Waterwise 1600 $449 https://www.waterwise.com/product/waterwise-1600-non-electric-distiller – all stainless steel, electric/gas stove/hotplate, wood/coal burning stove, propane/natural gas burner, gas/charcoal grill

WaterFilterData.org Buying Guide https://waterfilterdata.org/non-electric-water-distiller –

</div><div>WMN_TRULYSTEP 2 gal $90, 3 gal $95, 5 gal $115, 8 gal $145 Red copper (!) and stainless steel, water and moonshine distillation (!)
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Little Creek Stainless Steel Water Distiller VKP1208 stainless steel $110.83

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Happy Home Quest list of 6 non-electric distillers https://happyhomequest.com/best-non-electric-water-distillers Pros & cons included. So far I don’t see any I like better than the above.

There are more!

h2olabs.com

H2oLabs.com - Gravi-Stil Survival Water Distiller

Gravi-Stil Survival Water Distiller

[Ari]

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[Jena]

kudos to you Hulda..that was a lot of great research! I have a stovetop distiller from the 1970’s, a real dinosaur I have not used since then…should be good still…it is a sturdy monster! It makes me feel more prepped to have it….and a hand=cranked grain mill that makes the sweetest organic flour/bread….but it is an arm and shoulder work-out from when I was a granola-head energizer nerd/hippie in the 70’s.

[maryschurr]

Wow, thank you Hulda! I appreciate you sharing the research!

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