Electroculture Gardening

[Kev]

This thread is where we can share ideas specifically on Electroculture antenna designs and hardware in general.. The antennas we’ve used or just ideas we have for different types of configurations.. The forms & shapes, mathematics, materials used, and the ideas behind them – all of the above.. If you’ve got photos of your hardware, you can post them here.. Please do!.. Nothing is too simple, or too modest, either.. ?

Discussion

[Hal]

Hi Kev, thanks for starting this group I am very interested in participating in this topic. I came across some interesting info about what makes a good antenna for the electroculture to work its very best. I have used spirals and hoops and various shapes but I am doing an experiment using a fractile antennna shape. Here is a pic of a sketch I made for making these to test. I am making several sizes of these 24,12,6,4,2″ and will make some controlled tests to see how these work. Have you seen this shape being used yet?

[Kev]

Hi Hal.. That’s awesome!.. Yes, I have seen a few fractal antenna ideas, but nothing deployed out in a garden.. Originally, when I found Electroculture, I naturally imagined antennas made of these types of patterns, or cymatic patterns, or even basic polygonal shapes (perhaps combined with each other).. My first inclination (how I visualized it), was to deploy them horizontally around a plant so the plant grew up through the middle of them (kinda like a Lakhovsky coil), with the antenna attached to vertical metallic rods that would be staked into the ground.. That idea was completely intuitive..

Another idea was to take these fractal/cymatic patterns and make them 3-dimensional, instead of 2-dimensional.. So, with the example of this design of yours here, say you made 3 of them and then connected them together at the top-most point, so that the antenna as a whole would occupy the space in the same way a sphere would.. (In this case, if you were to look down on it from the top, the 3 antennas attached to each other would appear as a 6-pointed asterisk)..

I’m personally not set up for cutting and soldering metal rods, but I’m starting to think that would be a good investment.. And the ideas are endless.. I was actually cooking up a garden sculpture idea the other night that morphed into an elaborate electro-antenna with the kitchen sink thrown in.. I posted that in another thread.. Of course, just ideas being thrown around..

Thanks for posting this.. Love the ideas, and the inspiration to start fashioning metal rods into forms.. What’s your set-up for doing so??

[hugh]

Cool, I’ve never seen this one before. Looking forward to seeing the results.

[Hal]

I’ll send you a photo as I am making some this weekend. The key is to never close the loop ie have the wires touch as it will not work. I will be putting two together and turning one perpendicular to have a dimensional one as well, keeping either from touching is the key. I will also send you a pic of the jig I have to make them quickly 🙂

[Kev]

Oh nice, thanks.. Seeing someone else’s jig will be very helpful to show how to put these together with precision.. Thanks for that..

I was also just thinking earlier how one would be able to pull off curved shapes with precision.. You could draw curves onto wood and cut those out and mount them, and then bend the wire to form.. Someone also mentioned he uses a 3D printer.. I don’t know much about those, but my understanding is you can put in a mathematical formula and it’ll print in whatever material you give it to use.. That would be precise and allow for things not easily drawn by hand..

I’m gonna have to learn more about bending copper/metal rods as well, as I’ve never done so.. I know bendability is based on how the metal was processed, such as annealing to make it bendable.. I’m just getting up to speed on specifics, but I’m guessing bendable rods are available, as are stiff ones.. (Thinking outloud here).. ? Thanks Hal..

[Hal]

Cool, I’ll put some things together to share. I have some of the cones that were made using 3 D printer for the forms you can use over and over again. You should only use copper (best) but hear some get results from aluminum. Don’t bother with steel or galvanized wires, they will not work. The printing of 3D metals would be expensive I would think. I get scrap copper wire strip off the sheath and use it. Larger thickness wire for larger antenna, smaller for smaller. I’m lucky I have an electrician that gives me butt rolls after a job is completed so my wire is free to me.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by  Hal.

[Douglas]

Hi Hal and nice to meet you.

Have you checked out Ken Wheelers talk about antennas?

He is quite an unusual fellow but he certainly has some strong ideas regarding the magnetism and dielectricity. He is a Pythagoras based entity I believe if that is even a thing. Some of his documents on the subjects are different.

For myself there is no question of the disconnect our elite believers as Enslavers and our true reality of what we are and the act of knowing is what has appeared to be all that is required to bringing what you desire into your field.

Most look at me like I am drunk and while I don’t drink I guess I am better off they believe that then decide I need to be locked up. Hahahaha

Good luck with everything in NC. I have a good friend outside Wilmington. He definitely struggles as his wife is a advocate of the allopathic madmen and the jab while something swayed him to not go near it. Yet he is doing pretty well considering (our training).

Doug

[Hal]

Hi Doug nice to meet you. I will check Ken Wheeler’s discussion. I am always looking to learn. Glad your NC friend has not bent to family pressures. It takes a lot to fight that type of pressure.

[Hal]

So promised a test for this fractile antenna design. Attached is a photo of the prototype jig for a 4” antenna. Just printed out the pattern, drove some finish nails in at the node points. The jig worked well it took about 5 minutes to bend the wire to shape. I needed a way to keep the long wires from touching so I cut a cork down and it keeps the wire separated by sticking them down through the cork. Guess my wine intake has finally paid off! I have two Key lime trees inside, one doing well with flowers the other not so good no buds. I’m putting this first one in the soil to see if it helps. I’ll report back any findings.

[Kev]

This is awesome.. Using nails for a jig is a great idea — simple & easy!.. Hope it helps the lime tree..

[Hal]

Hey just thought I would update how the test with my sickly key lime tree. After placing the 4″ fractile antenna in the pot of my less than happy key lime tree, there seems to be hope and improvement! It has been about 16 days since I placed the new designed antenna and the tree has started putting out new leaf sets and even a flower bud! It is important to mention I have not moved the plant from its east facing window, only rotated it every few days. It was deep watered on the 24th and again on February 4th (I also spray misted the leaves using my Brown’s gas water as I always do) and has had no additional additives. The twin tree to this has continued its growth and it has put out at least 10 flowers over this time frame. It also received a 4″ fractile antenna. Please have a look at a couple pics, in my mind very positive based on how the tree was doing when the experiment began just a couple weeks ago.

[Kev]

Very nice!.. It’s pretty cool when you see results like this in real-time.. I experienced that many times last summer with my control experiment.. Please remind me again — for how long had the sickly tree stagnated and not produced any new growth prior to this??..

[Hal]

I bought the two trees in early December, right out of the shipment the one looked like it was in shock, probably scared 🙂 Over the first month it lost 2/3rds of its leaves and showed no sign of recovery or any new growth. The twin to that almost immediately started putting out new leaf sets and started blooming about the time I made the fractile antennas. I will say I may have cheated as I really started talking to this poor tree to give it some confidence as I introduced the antenna. 🙂 I do think these plants need that communication, maybe that helped too

[Kev]

Ha!.. Great story.. It’s true — it probably was scared after it got shipped in a dark box.. Wouldn’t you be a little traumatized with such an experience??.. Lol..

And you touch on something there that I’ve realized about plants — confidence.. I’ve found over the years that when you stress or fret or have worry, plants pick up on that and don’t do their best.. Sure, they may generally do okay, but when you hold the energy of confidence, without worry, and just let the plants be, and not project a bunch of vibes on them, they do very well, even to the point of surprising you sometimes.. ?

And I bet that sad tree really started to perk up when you were designing and constructing the fractal antenna, in anticipation..

[Hal]

Exactly Kev! And you are correct, I made those antenna 10 feet from both of those trees. Agree 100% with everything you just said. They are beings and need help like the rest of us.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by  Hal.

[Kev]

Hey y’all.. This is one of the antennas that yielded some of the best results I saw in my Electroculture control experiment last summer.. I called this my Lakhovsky Cubit Coil, with its dimensions based on the Egyptian royal cubit – which is approximately 20.6 inches (or 52.5 cm)..

The coil was roughly 20.6 inches in circumference, and 6.6 inches in diameter (16.8 cm), with an open section in its arc of 3 inches (7.6 cm).. The 3 inches was arrived at by reducing the circumference of the coil by dividing it by the Golden Ratio phi (which is 1.618), and doing so 4 times, in a series.. The coil was constructed by wrapping 3 wires around each other, with the ends of the wires curled, to create quasi-electrodes..

The coil was deployed so that the open end was facing toward magnetic north, and was sloped at a 30° angle, having been propped up by bamboo stakes.. It was positioned to wrap around the stem of my Broccoli plant, as the plant grew up into its ring of influence.. ?

[Hal]

Nice! Did you make a comparison on another plant not putting the coil around? Would love to see that if you tried a control plant. I made these for all my fruit trees, I think I will update them with the 3 wires as you have shown. Good info!!

[Kev]

Hi Hal.. Yes, I do have comparative photos with a control.. The broccoli plants were sprouted in smaller pots and then thinned out and transplanted into the larger pots on May 11th, which was the date the Lakhovsky coil was deployed.. The plants were the same size on that date — no differences.. At some point afterwards, the electro-plant started to show much more vigorous growth, or “took off” as people say.. ? The photo here was taken on July 1st, 50 days after the coil was put in place..

[Hal]

Wow!! that is crazy cool to be able to show that comparison. Very good results!!

[Kev]

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[Eliza]

That is one very happy broccoli – so thick and juicy those leaves almost succulent-like – the way the lower branches want to grow towards the coil reminds me of the way they are trimming trees / the trees are growing towards the telephone wires along the road (or it’s a strategic “black out power down Geoengineering game go switch”

[Kev]

Oh, good observation, and interesting.. I hadn’t explicitly noticed that.. The electro-plant has branches emerging and flourishing right at the coil.. I wonder if there’s anything to that..

[hugh]

This is my first design. About 10 inches of 12 gauge wrapped around a 6 inch bamboo skewer.

[Kev]

Ah, nice.. I use 12-gauge myself.. First antennas I ever made were with 20-gauge I picked up at the local hardware store, but the wire was so puny, I went up to 12..

And the little loop of wire you put at the top here reminds me of an idea I’ve had for an antenna, which would be a toroidal coil coming off the top of the stake, oriented horizontally.. So imagine wrapping wire around, say, a broomstick, then slide the wire off and then just bend it into a circular shape..

Someone also had the idea of connecting an antenna to such a toroidal coil that’s buried in the soil in the root zone.. That’s interesting — could have an amplifying effect..

[hugh]

I tried 20 initially too, but yeah didn’t seem to have an effect. The idea on the coil was to combine a Lakhovsky coil and the antenna. It does seem to have a stronger effect when I run the plant through the coil, but there would have to be a more scientific look at that.

Burying a coil would make sense, kind of like what they do with the big antennas in the fields. I’ll give that a try.

Ever experiment with adding copper pennies to a pot?

[Kev]

Burying wires to energize the root zone is kinda fascinating to me, and I like the idea of playing around with different set-ups in that regard.. I especially like how Chris Winters threads ring magnets onto galvanized steel wire and buries that along a south-to-north axis, with the terminus being the deepest point.. So I’m imagining all sorts of coils & things buried in the soil — maybe large toroidal coils encircling the root zones of individual plants, maybe play with magnets oriented north-south, combined with the coil to see if it’s extra-energizing..

One of the things I’ve been intrigued by are “Earth batteries”.. I don’t know much about them, but what I do know is that it’s a way to harness and focus the negative electrical charge running through the soil.. You do it by burying 2 metal plates close to and facing each other.. The plates have to be made out of different metals — like zinc & copper.. The plates become electrodes, like with a battery, and it sets up a localized electrical current.. I watched a few videos where these guys were measuring the current between the plates.. I was fascinated, thinking it would be a potent way to energize the root zones of individual plants.. and maybe they could be combined with atmospheric antennas situated between the plants, see what that does..

I haven’t used pennies in my soils.. My understanding is that pennies aren’t made out of copper anymore — just some base alloy plated in copper, so the copper content is very low.. But the other metal could have an effect — who knows?.. Might be worth trying.. But speaking of coins — I wonder if silver coins might be useful.. I know silver is antimicrobial, and so may not be a good choice to put in the soil.. ?

[Douglas]

I found some nice twisted copper but no idea if it is an advantage or disadvantage.

[Gerald]

I’ve been intrigued by Chris’ use of the buried cable and magnets as well. Has anyone else played with that yet? My backyard garden just so happens to be laid out North to South which is perfect. I need to jump on this soon before plants get in the way. part of my delay has been in trying to decide just what my antenna should look like and how high to go with it. Chris’ look so intricate!

I don’t have comparison photos, but I played with some electroculture last year in the garden and saw positive results. One very pathetic tomato completely rebounded and begun bearing new foliage and fruit after a few weeks of adding a simple copper coil around a 3ft stake. Stuck a few more in various spots around the garden and the plants closest to them all seemed to really take off. House plants too!

[Kev]

Hey Gerald.. Yeah, I’ve been thinking about how to implement Chris’ ideas (with the antenna connected to the underground wire), but his antennas are out of reach for me practically speaking, in terms of replicating his specific designs and actually constructing them.. So I thought simplifying it would be an easy compromise.. It won’t have the bells & whistles, but it would be an antenna connected to an underground wire threaded with magnets..

As you know, a typical antenna design of his consists of the spray of galvanized steel wires coming off the top of a copper pipe.. and then a bit further down he has the brass pointer, threaded with a ring magnet, pointing south, horizontally connected to the pipe.. And then there’s some other thing sticking out the side (I think he calls it a “thermo-coupler”.. not sure).. I’d have to see all the principles behind his engineering it in this way, as I don’t fully know what all that is.. But my thought is that the spray of steel wires coming off the top, mounted on a vertical pipe or pole, and connected to the wire running down into the ground would be adequate enough.. Just that alone, nothing else.. Would simplify it, and I bet it would be effective.. And also, I’m thinking that copper could work for the spray in place of steel..

All you’d need to make the spray is some straight thin metal rods and a hacksaw.. And then figure out a way to bind them together (maybe wrap in copper wire), and then how to mount the whole thing on the top of the pole.. (Probably using the opening in the pipe could work).. Connecting to the ground wire looks easy enough.. I saw him using some sort of clamp that connects the end of wires together (forget what it was called).. And as he says, if you use PVC for the pole, no risk of the grounding wire touching metal and discharging..

I personally would want to make a spray of stiff wires at the top that looks like in this photo here (which I think is one of Yannick’s designs).. Of course, I’m just referring to the spray of wires here as a reference (not all the other embellishments).. But embellishments can’t hurt, right??..

But that’s what I’ve been thinking about this – just totally simplify.. ?

[Gerald]

Yeah, I suspect I’ll be playing with something more simplified. Part of the hangup in building my own antenna in Chris’ style is comprehension. My brain is still trying to fully grasp electricity, so there is a basic understanding of terms and concepts that I need to get a better handle on before this all really “clicks” for me. I’ll get it though!

Good reminder on the PVC pole. I’m inclined to want to use a wooden pole for the sheer aesthetics of it, and also to keep any additional plastic out of the garden, but I doubt it would really matter.

[Kev]

Yeah, Chris actually dissuades the use of wood because it’s a conductive material when it’s wet.. I would want to do wood too.. PVC is gross.. Lol.. If you can rig something up so the grounding wire or antenna don’t ever touch the wood, that would be ideal — (I saw in one of Chris’ videos where he uses little brackets attached to the pole that hold the wire out and away a couple inches from the pole)..

But I also had the idea of using a copper pipe for the pole, which would be stuck in the ground, and then attach the wire directly to the pole underground and then run it south-to-north.. But since the whole set-up would be metallic, the pipe/pole might ground it out and prevent/compromise flow through the length of the wire.. So that may not be ideal..

And I hear what you say about fully comprehending the electrical engineering of it.. I don’t fully understand that realm.. I just think of it in basic terms — that atmospheric voltage increases with altitude, and it’s positively charged generally speaking, while the ground is negatively charged.. so, the energy at the top of the antenna relative to the ground sets up a differential, or “voltage potential” (I think it’s called) and a flow of energy that wants to ground out in the ground — positive-to-negative, or yang-to-yin, as Chris says.. But, not like I’m giving a class or something.. ?

..(Btw, I bought a voltmeter last summer to see if I could get readings through my copper wires, and I did, and the readings were consistent between similar antennas.. but some of it was so whacky I didn’t know what to think, or if I was utilizing the device correctly, or how to interpret what I was seeing, so I abandoned that for now, as adequate online instruction couldn’t be found.. and the voltmeter was a cheapo).. If anyone ever sees someone taking readings with a voltmeter, I’d love to see that.. Hasn’t been much of that that I’ve seen..

Anyway, I just wanted to follow-up this morning with a couple photos of an antenna I used last summer and how I rigged it up.. It’s a spray of wires that I bound together with wire wrapping, and then I stuck/jammed the whole thing into the opening in the top of the hollow bamboo stake, and then it connected to the wire that went down into the soil.. Hope this helps/inspires.. ?

[Douglas]

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[Eliza]

She’s a beaut! That stuff looks heavy duty enough to levitate, forget Electroculture.

[Kev]

Right??.. Still working on the levitation thing, so I’ll consider any idea.. ?

[Douglas]

The Chris Winter work was incredible.

I am a slow reader. 🙂

[Nick]

Hey Kevin and everybody else. I promised some video’s. In this video I am showing how I make the basalt towers. I tried to upload the .stl file for the cones but it’s not supported.
https://youtu.be/8C5rNiby1ME

[Kev]

Nick.. Thanks brother for making this fantastic instructional video!.. Very appreciated.. Now I know how to make these paramagnetic towers.. Wasn’t sure how to do it, so this shows me how.. I do have questions..

What is your recipe for the basalt powder-sand-cement-iron oxide-water mixture??.. Is it a precise mixture, or is it more loose and relatively forgiving??.. Seems like it might be somewhat forgiving, just as long as the slurry has “enough” cement to harden it..

At the 10:30 mark, you put one of the cones on the vertical tower before they were fully cured.. Is that done so that the surfaces fuse together??.. I just wanted to be certain that was the idea, because when you unwrapped the tower at the 12:00 mark, the cone was stuck to the tower.. Seems obvious.. And that’s impressive you figured that out.. So would you say a good rule-of-thumb is to combine the pieces just as soon as they’re stiff enough to handle, so you get a good fusion??..

Alright, my friend, thanks again for doing this.. I like the addition of the wire-wrapped quartz — that’s got me thinking of all sorts of additions to the mix..

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[Hal]

Thank you for posting Nick, I have wanted to start making these as well and your video is very helpful!

[Nick]

At the 10.30 mark I turn around one of the towers and take of the mold. I do that so it can dry a little better. The towers are 1 piece. I put a little mixture in the cone and then put the pipe in and fill it up so it’s all one piece. You could also poor the cilinder and cone seperate and then when it’s dry just put a cone on the cilinder. I made my first towers like that but I didnt like it cause the cone can easily fall off. They break easily. If a tower stands on stone tiles and falls over high chance it’s broken.

The mixture isnt written in stone. I use 50-55% basalt, 10-15% cement and 35-40% cement.
For 1 tower I use
2,75 liter basalt = 52.4%
0,60 liter cement = 11,4%
1,90 liter sand = 36.2%
That is 5,25 liter in total.
I use around 1,5 liter of water which is 28,5% of that 5,25 liter.
I am not super secure with this so when I mix everything its possible that I use 2.9 liter of basalt and 0,65 liter cement and 2 liter of sand.

So far my towers and cones surived all weather conditions we have here. It could be that if you live in a area with very strong frost in the winter that things might crack and break. You’ll have to tweak you mixture then but I have no idea how to tweak it. Luckily it doesn’t get too cold here. This winter it didnt get colder then -8 degrees celcius in the night.

For people who don’t own a 3D printer. Here we have companies that 3D print on request, so you send them the file and they print it for you. Pretty sure you have them in other countries also.

I can email the stl file for the cones to anyone interested. If Mike ever decides to add more supported files to be uploaded here I’ll just add it to this post.

[Kev]

Excellent.. Thanks for the elucidation.. I didn’t realize you had made a tower that was one whole piece together.. But then after I posted that comment last night, I got to thinking that you could make the pieces separately and then attach the cone to the top of the tower by dabbing a little of the cement mixture sorta like gluing the pieces together.. At the very least, would probably help with the cone getting knocked off so easily..

Now I know how to do this.. Already thinking of embellishments.. ?

Thanks again!

[Ott]

Have done several of these wooden star-tetrahedrons. One which was hanging and freely rotating as wind allowed and was inhabited by a potty flower outdoor. Pity I dont have any photo of it at the moment but I was expecting some similar effect of plant being loaded by some organized harmony due to being in the center oh star-tetrahedron. What do You thing if material being wood has any effects. I didnt knew anything about electroculture then but Im having ideas of doings same object with copper or aluminium(more likely) now. Does this kind of antenna with so many connected point would work and how is going to effect the fact that its rather hanging and is not grounded?

As a sidenote: In this image is the version I made a moving carousel for the kids and to illustrate how the human light body has the same rotating geometry in it. Circle stand in the middle does not rotate while surrounding shape does.

[Kev]

Incredible.. I’ve always been drawn to the tetrahedron.. I remember encountering it for the first time in Calculus and Chemistry classes back in the day.. And I love the 2 tetras intertwined with each other in a 3-dimensional star formation.. ?

I think its perfect geometry will make it a superb antenna for capturing energy.. That’s ideal in my view.. And it you used it to energize soil, I think you could just stick it straight in the ground with the lower point going into the soil, configured just like in these photos.. Depending on how big it is, and how heavy, I would likely add a rod coming out of the bottom point, pointing down and stuck into the soil.. The rod will anchor it and stabilize it (prevent it from tipping over), and have a deeper grounding effect for the flow of energy..

But also, regarding putting a potted plant right in the center of the tetra-star formation — I think that absolutely will be an energized point of captured energy.. In molecular chemistry, the tetrahedron is a naturally-occurring formation of certain molecules.. The center point within the pyramid is one type of element, and the four outer points are another element bonded with it.. At least that’s what I remember.. And I’m certain tetrahedrons are templates for naturally-occurring crystalline formations.. It’s that center point that’s the center that holds it all together, the energetic center.. So yeah, I think a potted plant in the center is probably the best idea with this form.. And it probably couldn’t hurt to both anchor it into the soil, and position a potted plant within the center.. So many ways you could embellish it as well — but a simple tetra-star would be powerful enough, just as is, in its pure form..

Good work, Ott!.. I’m inspired.. Hope to see updates and photos if you build one out of metal.. I’m guessing you’ll use metal rods cut to length and then soldered or welded together.. Yes??.. ?

Oh, and by the way, to speak to the question as to whether wood would be effective.. I’ve been listening to some pyramid researchers recently talk about the pyramid research that’s been done in Russia.. Their results were shown to be best with non-metallic materials, such as wood, plastic, or PVC.. But they also were mostly working with the steeper pyramid angle of around 75 degrees (whatever that very specific number is).. This probably won’t be a universal rule.. A pyramid at 51 degrees (like the Gizas), might be best made out of metals, or even specific metals.. Might be a difference or a range of variability.. And with a tetrahedron (which is a 3-sided pyramid at 60 degrees), that’s something entirely different worth considering..

Those are my thoughts on it.. ?

[Ott]

Kev, thank you so much elaborating on those images so throughly. I would yes, probably weld the metal unit so it would be clean. I try to find the image tho with the rotating hanging plant, the original design was made with little light bulb in every corner so it was meant to be a chandelier., pointing light sources into centre. From there on these light sources could be different colour rays but now im going too far from source topic.
What You are saying sta-rtetrahedron having different energetics in different parts of the object, this carousel is going to be a garden piece once the rotational part is wearing out (witch is soon) and being a home for a plant that would grow all over it (a vine type of plant?) So I wonder if a plant is covering all of the structure what would be going on with the plant in different parts of the structure, also lets say it would be plant with fruits (a grape) would the fruits be delivering different taste/qualities dependent on the exact spot.

[Ott]

Wooden geometry – I planted some living domes last year. If to try to grow and bend a living trees in the shape of star-tetrahedron, I wonder the outcomes. Theres something about ethics on forming living body like that that I have a mixed gut feeling.
Also different plants have different energy. (Rowan coming to mind as with powerful energy) In nature all live in coexistence. If sculpting a living holy geometry container (would a natural flow of the tree also be kind of fractal sacred geometry?) and hosting another plant in it so one plant being kind of a container or a shelter for another, is it something that is happening anyways in wild naturally?

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[Nick]

Really awesome!
Looking forward to your control experiment when you make a metal one ?

[Ott]

Maybe this is too simple but my kids would go this way with the design:
Theres something that this symbol has in The Field that is backed up by so many, so it would work I guess.
Im not sure but the right way to go would be not connecting the bottom part but to have both sides enter the ground separately?
We are extracting copper wire for these hearts from old computer electronics. Think of all the data that has gone thru it!

[Kev]

Perfect!.. and it’s the imperfection with intention that makes it so perfect, I would say..

Especially like the point that this wire carried and transmitted countless amounts of data.. That’s intriguing.. So interesting..

[Hal]

Hey exciting update on my fractal antenna tests on the key lime trees. I am blown away by what I am finding on the key lime trees with this treatment. The key lime tree that was struggling badly has not only put off new leaves but the size of the leaves are more than 3 times the size of the “normal” leaves when I bought it. (see photo) also, it had formed the very first fruit, with a dozen new blooms! (see photo)

[Kev]

Wow, those leaves are huge.. Never grown a lime tree myself, but from the pictures I recall, leaves were never that big.. This is all in the category of “too hard to believe”.. but I believe!.. Yay for the key lime!.. Do you know the mature size of this particular variety?.. I know some are pretty small.. ?

[Hal]

Hey Kev, it really is unbelievable…these trees are from 6-13 feet tall depending on how you want to prune them. They apparently will put out fruit year round as well. i may get some Meyers Lemon trees to go with these.

[Kev]

Oh that’s awesome.. Yeah, I definitely have seen some lime and lemon trees on the much smaller side, so that’s why I asked.. Is this a lime for which the cold in NC would be too cold??.. You’re in about zone 8b I’m guessing.. I have seen reference to some particular citrus being okay with the Carolina winters.. Another thought: get that Meyer Lemon and cross-breed with the Lime, see what happens!.. ?

[Hal]

I plan on putting these on the patio in spring and bringing them in the house in the fall before first frost. I am building a greenhouse they may find their way in as well. Kind of like seeing them in the house and they are doing well there now so hoping to continue that trend.

[Nick]

Awesome results Hal. I have this fractal antenne from Yannick laying around that I havent used yet. This is good inspiration, it will be in the garden this week ?

[Kev]

Hey Nick!.. I took a look at Yannick’s antennas.. Do you have one of these??

(I also saw that he sells a Fibonacci spiral mold.. I’ve been wanting to make something similar, but probably won’t be precise.. I bet he makes them with a 3D printer).. ?

[Hal]

Love the Fibonacci spiral for many things. In my job we print on fabrics, I printed a very large 60″ wide piece of fabric and marked of the sequence placing markers on the fabric that equal the math as the spiral unwinds. I plan on planting a Fibonacci bed with several spirals rotating out from the South to North Large antenna I purchased from Chris Winters. Here is a graphic of the fabric I printed 60×96. It can be staked down and then marked at each point of the spiral for planting locations etc, note blue dots

[Kev]

Oh wow, that’s incredible.. I’ve been thinking about this very thing — planting individual plants along a Golden Spiral, and arranging rocks in such patterns as well.. That’s handy that you can print such a large template and lay it out to mark all the individual dots so easily.. And isn’t it amazing that the numbers of the Fibonacci sequence are not only the proportions, or side lengths, of the rectangles that build the spiral, but also the number of dots equally-spaced along the spiral??..

I’m so excited to see you plant out this garden.. Do you have an idea of which plants will occupy the spiral pattern??..

And hey, which of Chris’ antenna did you get??..

[Hal]

I bought the antenna with the collector spikes that I will put on a 25 foot flag pole, I also got the one he uses for trellises so I can test that in another area. Also got one of the revitalizer rings for a tree I want to test. I have a pear tree that has issues with leaf rust every year and have not been able to fix it. Want to see if the revitalizer will help that in any way. I think what I will do is place rocks on the blue dots and then fill the void with plants in each of the sequence areas. Further test this buy planting the number of plants in the sequence in that area too. I am planning out the plantings to be as perennial and native to our area as I can. Researching it now

[Kev]

Oh nice, native plants will be ideal, as they’re best-suited and attuned to the environment and local area already.. Love all of what you’re doing there.. Great ideas..

I had to look up Chris’ tree revitalizer device as a reminder.. That’s a serious design, the Lakhovsky coil with the brass rod and ring magnets.. If I’m not mistaken, the brass pointer has to point in the direction of magnetic south, correct??.. And hey, I thought I’d go ahead a post a screenshot here so others can see it, if interested.. I really love this design..

[Nick]

Yea I got that one but it’s only the cirle part. I didnt order it but it he put it with my delivery because something went wrong last summer. I didn’t bother using it but now I will.

I also just checked his shop to see that Fibonacci mold. That is funny because I’ve been thinking for months now to have somebody design exactly that mold for my 3D printer. Which I will still do and now I can show my designer exactly what I want. It will only cost a couple of euro’s to print it.

[Hal]

great love to see it set in place!

[Nick]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pnNkKOiwsDE

[Hal]

Nice design for sure, it will also allow you to set the angle of the ring to an optimal 20-30 degree angle downward. Yes, the brass post with magnets points due south. His work is very good and his explanation of how it works is even better.

[maryschurr]

@Hal, how is your lemon tree doing? Do you get many lemons from it and do you relocate it outside during the summer? Just curious? Can you keep it on the smaller size by pruning it and still obtain a fair amount of fruit? As, I write this I’m thinking maybe you just started and don’t know the answer to a lot of these questions??

If so, maybe someone else will know?? I would love to give it a try.

[Hal]

Hi Mary,

I have had the trees since December and they are now both doing well. They are both putting out new growth and each has been flowering for over 6 weeks. Where the blooms have fallen off I already have limes growing (still small but growing) These trees are meant to be pruned if you want to keep them a certain size and they will be put outside for spring and summer after last frost then brought back in the house for fall and winter. My understanding is they will flower and fruit year round and healthy key limes will put out 30-50 pounds of fruit a year when mature. I plan on getting two Myers Lemons to do the same thing.

[maryschurr]

Wow, that is exciting! I may give it a try. You are inspiring me! I forgot it was limes you have, but same ish family.

Perhaps, I need one of those things on wheels to put one on to navigate as I find the best place in my home for one. My breakfast table currently looks like a greenhouse between the wheatgrass, basil, and parsley. Wont’ be long until 2 of those can go outside, though. A few recent cold days, but sunny. Yesterday was Carolina Blue skies like we used to have and I loved it! South Charlotte really gets hit by those trail monsters, but I do love it whenever skies return to Carolina Blue again.

[Kev]

You’re tellin’ me, Mary.. I’ve got so much growing and plant propagation in motion that I’m already buried in the daily tending to it all.. And it’s just the spring Equinox, a lot of season to come!.. ?

I got 5 little Lemon trees I sprouted last spring (from store-bought lemons), loved the summer sun, and they overwintered indoors and are starting to grow like crazy now.. Gotta transplant into bigger pots, and excited to see how they do this summer in full blazing sunlight..

Haven’t had any luck finding Limes (or even Naval Oranges) with seeds in them in the stores.. I’ve never had a Grapefruit seed germinate for me, but I got a whole collection of them now, and I’ll be sowing those here soon.. Good vibes for the Grapefruit!.. I’m gonna be at the market today and might spy the citrus selection, see what I find.. Tangerines or some Orange other than naval would be good choices methinks.. ?

[maryschurr]

Oh wow! Look at you! Well, maybe we all can order our citrus from you and not worry about the Apeel thing, lol! I always have lemons, so I will start saving some seeds and get to it. May have to more the greenhouse to the dining room table now. ??‍?

Let me know how the grapefruit works out.??

[Kev]

Soon as one of them Grapefruit seeds germinates, I’ll blast a message to you, pronto!.. Lol.. You know I’ll be so excited.. ?

[Hal]

Yeah Mary I have my two trees on a roller now so I can scoot them around as I need. It was super nice having those Carolina blue skies here even with our cool mornings. My Pear tree is loaded with blooms this year, hoping they do not get damaged with the cold mornings. Year before last I bet I had 300 pears on that old tree. Need to figure out what to do with another bumper crop looking likely!

[Nick]

Made another antenna last week

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[Kev]

Oh wow, this is *so* good!.. Did you get around to having a mold made for the Golden Spiral??.. Those you made here look pretty good and pretty accurate.. Good work mate!.. Love it..

(By the way, I’m going to be looking again at the 3 videos you posted a while back.. Was especially impressed by the large raised bed you built with the pyramid and other things in it.. It’ll take me a bit more time to focus on it.. but, I’ve got some thoughts on pyramids I’ve been mulling over recently (and for years, in fact).. I’m talking about actual stone pyramids with specific geometry, integrated with metals and crystals, aligned in particular ways.. That’s not out of reach.. More on that later).. ✨

[Nick]

Yea I had the mold for the spirals made. It’s not exactly how I wanted. The middle part is a little weak so with stronger thicker wire it can break easily. Maybe I have one designed again in the future but for now it does what it needs to do and I’ll keep using it. The file for the cone and spirals are added.

Thanks for the nice words, we are pretty happy ourselves with how everything turned out. Today I started a new addition for the raised bed. We want to sow in circles around the big basalt tower. There can be 3 or 4 bigger circles around the tower. Going to divide the circles with copper wires so we basically create big Lakhovsky circuits. I’ll show those when they are finished.

Looking forward to your idea’s about the pyramids. You go way deeper with your thoughts then I do. Show us a cool design and some basic instructions and good chance I’ll copy it. ?

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[Kev]

Oh good, this is the kick I needed to draw up some schematics and general instructions on building stone pyramids.. It might take a while to write that out, but I will, and include some photos of sketches.. This is gonna be real fun.. ✨

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