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Tonsil Stones

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  • #404369

    Steven
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    Hi Barre, do you (or anyone else reading) know what the mechanism is by which tonsil stones are formed? And how one might go about preventing it from re-curring? Or if you could point me in the direction to look for answers. I did some digging around but couldn’t find much beyond the official explantion which like everything else boils down to “We don’t know how it works, it just does. Also, bacteria.”

    I was having a conversation with a friend who has gotten them semi-regularly for decades. I suggested that it might be related to the body needing to flush things out, and that it chose the tonsils to do so because other routes weren’t functioning properly. Is that on the right track?

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  • #404371

    Rian
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    I haven’t listened to this episode however Darko Velcek has some very interesting perspectives on health that I find very helpful and stimulating of thought he’s always challenging the dogma. https://rumble.com/vvl941-tonsillitis-and-tonsil-stones.html

    • #404385

      Steven
      Member

      Oooooooh I see! If he’s correct, the deposits themselves aren’t the body cleansing itself. But, they are a result of the pathways that the body uses to cleanse the tonsils being unable to do thier job because of toxic buildup. So things get trapped in there and buildup until the ducts can’t take anymore and they push out the lump. That makes much more sense than the official explanation. He didn’t explain where the calcium in the deposit comes from, so I’ll have to look further for that. In any case, a cleanse is still the answer!

      Thank you kindly Rian, I appreciate the video share!

      • #404394

        Kev
        Member

        I didn’t watch the video, but your synopsis is about what I was gonna say — basically, toxic build-up trapped in the lymphatic system, clogging it up..

        Didn’t know, though, that the stones were actually calcium deposits.. That makes me immediately think of arterial heart disease and heart attacks supposedly being caused by cholesterol build-up in arterial walls.. As I understand it, the underlying issue in that is degradation of the arterial walls caused by chronic inflammation (or inflammatory factors coursing through the system).. and in my opinion, in most people, probably and mostly caused by faulty an unhealthy digestive system (so-called “leaky gut”).. In that, as I’ve heard it described, calcium is leeched from the bloodstream and the bones, and is used to patch up or fortify the arterial walls.. The cholesterol plaques within the arteries, as I understand it, is a secondary response, to try to patch up degraded arterial tissues.. (i.e. cholesterol doesn’t cause heart attacks.. it’s a compensatory response to an underlying problem)..

        I have *no* idea, if this is all correct, of how calcium is stimulated to respond in the way, to do the patching job.. (but I did hear it spelled out a couple years ago).. and it’s connected to Vitamin K2 as well, which is critical for calcium being properly deposited into bone, and kept there, so it’s not free-floating in the bloodstream.. (or something to that effect).. But interesting thing — K2 comes from animal foods and saturated fats and organs, and such things (fatty meats) have been demonized, with people reducing those in their diet, as if it will make them sick.. and then, along with other influences, heart disease skyrockets..

        I’d be *very* interested to hear what you find on free calcium ending up in the wrong places, and what causes it, especially in this case, clogging up the lymph flow and getting stuck there in the tonsils.. and if it’s somehow a compensatory response as well, or just calcium imbalance/in the wrong place..

        • #404428

          Steven
          Member

          Interesting insights Kev! I’m wondering if perhaps the calcium is the body’s way of congealing all of the material it wants out in one solid form. It probably doesn’t have to be calcium though, so perhaps, like Barre said, there’s an over-production/ intake of it and the body chose to use that material as the congealing substance in order to kill 2 birds with one stone?

          • #404448

            Kev
            Member

            Oh very good.. I like that.. so in a way, stones are a sequestering of toxicity, in at least to shield the body with these encapsulations.. and then they build up in the lymph and get clogged??.. all so interesting..

            reminds me of how Cowan refers to cancer colonies in the same way — the body accumulating garbage in one location, and then the next step is to help take out the trash..

  • #404380

    Penny
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    I would oil pull with castor oil regularly. Make sure you get a nice organic oil in a dark glass bottle. Five minutes or more a night before bed after you do your other dental hygiene practices.

    • #404386

      Steven
      Member

      I do that regularly, but I can’t seem to convince others to do it!

      • #404395

        Kev
        Member

        This was another one of my thoughts.. not Castor oil, but aromatic essential oils.. I wonder if there is an oil that can stimulate the tonsils to flush out the stones, or if they’re too big to move, if there’s something that could dissolve them as an oral gargle over time..

        I know there are herbals that can dissolve kidney stones (such as Collinsonia, or Stone Root).. I wonder if the herbals that work on the urinary mucus membranes would be applicable to the lymph system in this way.. I’m currently dealing with partial kidney failure, and taking herbs for the kidneys, and in thinking to support lymph drainage as well, I’ve found a lot of cross-over with herbs that work in both areas (I guess, presumably you could say, having to do with moving fluids and fluid balance).. Burdock and Dandelion roots are indicated for both.. some others too, one being Ginger.. I’ve very sympathetic to Ginger for it’s warming quality and how it clearly thins and moves fluids through the system.. Overall, my knowledge on this is cursory and elementary.. just wondering if warming and thinning lymph fluid and stimulating flow would be a strategy.. Sorta like doing a gallbladder flush, where you stimulate the opening of the bile ducts, and stimulate bile flushing, which pushes out gallstones..

        But yes, Castor oil, fantastic idea..

  • #404398

    barre
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    Hey Steven

    Actually, what the good doctor in the video is saying is one and the same as understanding the filtration role of the tonsils … he just adds that other overwhelmed elimination organs will put more of a burden on the tonsils and every other lymphatic component.

    The tonsils have a special role for maintaining the integrity of the anatomy in close proximity, but it also reflects the health of the entire body. The largest elimination organ is the skin, which out-gases through the 10,000 pores per square centimeter and Kalium Sulfuricum dependent for proper function. The 2nd most critical elimination system is the upper respiratory, that eliminates toxins with every exhale, but is on overwhelm for most of us at present due to chemtrails just for starters. Moving south, the liver is the most central filtration hub upon which all lymphatics are dependent both north and south. Weekly coffee enemas should be standard issue for all living within this purposely poisoned atmosphere, as it effectively targets the liver.

    Any Calcium deposits may also indicate that one is taking the wrong type of mineral supplements especially Calcium if not taken in the appropriate anionic, cationic or neutral form as determined by testing pH … otherwise it will deposit where you don’t want it and cause a myriad of potential problems. So rule out that possibility.

    Bottom line, the tonsils, as with any other organ, reflect general bioterrain health. One important consideration involves the indigenous microorganisms, that pleomorphically mutate into scavenger forms to clean up the terrain. Accretions/depositions are a good indicator that the necessary populations need to be re-seeded through isopathic preparations.

    Issues involving the oral cavity often involve Candida parapsilosis (https://stg-alfavedic-801.uw2.rapydapps.cloud/product/symbio-para-4x-drops/) and Aspergillus niger is the go-to for general lymphatic issues as well as upper respiratory (https://stg-alfavedic-801.uw2.rapydapps.cloud/product/symbio-asper-4x-drops/). The combination of Mucur racemosis/Aspergillus niger is excellent as it combines both microcirculation and lymphatic support (https://stg-alfavedic-801.uw2.rapydapps.cloud/product/symbio-muc-aspergillus-4x-drops/). for an excellent cleansing, which I always used to get things moving. I do both IV and IM injections, but cause dramatic changes that should not be attempted by inexperienced folks including doctors lacking a proper understanding. The isopathics in “drops” form are very mild and safe, but effective if taken for weeks at a time, no different than planting a garden.

    The MDs don’t understand that “bacterial Infections” are simply the bacterial stage of many different microorganism species and are present as the cure and not the cause. They can become chronic, not due to any innate pathogenicity, but get stuck in that phase when the terrain is compromised.

    Take a look at the attache PDF in the deposition phase column, and you’ll see afflictions to different organ systems, when toxic deposits initially occur due to an overly-burdened terrain and create symptoms mistaken as “disease”. Issues progress through the six phases as illustrated on the chart, and this should be the first thing taught to aspiring medics, but … that wouldn’t be good for their bottom line. The Six Phases of disease was well understood by Chinese medics 4,000 years ago, and later discerned by German medical doctors in the early 1900s. I’ll pin this response, as it would answer a lot of questions for many.

    I hope this helps. We could elaborate much further, but this should be digested first.

    • #404426

      Steven
      Member

      Thank you for that detailed response Barre! I have been working on internalizing the idea that dis-ease is nothing more than the body-mind’s attempts to eleminate what it doesn’t need, spiritually, mentally and physically, but being unable to normally for any number of reasons. So, it needs to find alternative ways to do that. Chronic dis-ease developing from repeated attempts to do so, and so the body adjusts to the new condition. I realize that’s a rather over-simplistic synopsis!

      I think my main problem is that I’m still partway stuck in the official paradigm, where everything is an isolated problem, not a larger indication of the whole. Which is reinforced when speaking with people who are still firmly stuck in this paradigm and demand that you explain things the way they would understand it. I also find that I happen to be very good at weaving the macro-story, but I struggle a bit with micro-details, so I sputter out when trying to explain things to people who want answers to every detail. I am eternally grateful to you and others who help give me these better understandings!

      One thing I’d like to elaborate on while I digest the rest of what you said, is the bit about the indigenous bacteria. I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how these organisms aren’t really separate from us (not that anything really is, but these little guys are a bit more intimate than the rest of the organisms in our realm). Knowing what I know about microzymas/protids, and riffing on the idea that apparently “there are more bacteria in the body than human cells,” I would say we are them, they are us. It’s just that they are protids within us that have morphed to fullfill a role. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that they really aren’t any different than our “human” cells at all. Depending on our terrain, we can make them morph into happy, productive cells, or we can morph them into unhappy, scavenger ones. The same goes for bacteria that come from the outside. They don’t change us. We either change them, or they find a way to fit into our already unhappy terrain and contribute to making it worse.

      I think this is a physical representation of what Harold Percival called “The Human University.” By working on elevating ourselves, in spirit, body, and mind, we passively elevate the organisms inside and around us. We don’t even need to positively act on them in most cases. In this way, I’d say that bettering ourselves isn’t done just for the sake of ourselves, but also for everyone and everything else around us.

      What do you think about that rant?

      • #404440

        barre
        Organizer

        More food for thought … I always sat down with my patient’s and put their living blood sample on the big screen. The point I would impress was that these sentient beings/elementals that outnumber the cells 10,000:1, as well as the RBC, WBC etc that make our biological selves possible, consider us the God of their Universe and register/obey every thought and emotion without exception … good or otherwise. A kind and benevolent master would never impose the resonance of toxic emotions and thoughts to produce chaos in their world. Our ignorance of this seemingly hidden world is the source of all that ails us. There are some that believe, myself included, that these elementals are with us for the long haul, and will populate larger worlds of our own creation, as we move beyond this realm of experience. Health is about good parenting skills!

        • #404442

          Mike
          Organizer

          Boom. Yes! Such a beautiful design. And as Percival explains in Thinking & Destiny, these elementals are using us a university to grow and mature in so they can eventually graduate into the next step of consciousness which is human … (as the great eternal progression of Intelligence continues). So we have a duty to be the best teachers possible because these are the beings who will take over here as we ascend up.

          • #404446

            Steven
            Member

            Mike! I’m glad you agree! As I mentioned to Barre above, I’ve been thinking about just that concept in relation to our inner beings for some time now, and I think it’s beautiful. It isn’t just for ourselves that we become what we are meant to be, but for the sake of everything and everyone else around us too!

            • This reply was modified 6 months, 2 weeks ago by  Steven.
        • #404443

          Steven
          Member

          Oooooooooooooh you just upended my whole world and snapped a bunch of concepts into new relations and the mind is blown! What a rush that was. As above so below!

          Man, and I’ve been so MEAN to these guys haha. I’m going to have to make it up to them.

          • This reply was modified 6 months, 2 weeks ago by  Steven.
      • #404444

        Kev
        Member

        Wow Steven.. this is about the best thing I’ve read in a *long* time.. So well put.. and Barre’s and Mike’s responses as well.. I’m keeping this tab open and gonna come back to this to digest it all more.. I’ve got myself convinced I’m in a world of hurt with my health, and I’m finding, and I know, I’m running the scripts that are creating it.. reflected in what Barre said in response.. And so the question is basic for me: what’s the methodology for just stopping the damn scripts??.. have made progress, but the falling back happens again & again.. Do I need to use magnets or something?!.. 😏

        As our good friend Abe says: “With my words, I create”..

        Will be returning to this thread…

        (and, by the way, this sounds a lot like, or echos the conversation we had back & forth earlier this year.. but can’t even remember where that thread would be found)…

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