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Lyme

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  • #388833

    Roxana
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    Dr. Lando, would you share your thoughts on this chronic ‘disease’. I currently have many clients who have undergone the full treatment with ‘specialists’: multiple antibiotics/dapsone/methylene blue, etc., and are struggling to recover. Many others speak of Lyme as a bioweapon – Any share would be welcome. Thank you

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  • #388911

    Kimberly
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    I’d love to hear more on this topic as well!

  • #388926

    Kathy M
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    I’m very curious about this topic too Roxana. I believe there is a AV podcast on the topic if I’m not mistaken. I’ve had several friends “diagnosed” this past year and others ongoing, struggling to get their stamina back especially while undergoing the standard treatment of antibiotics, etc.

    • #389601

      Roxana
      Member

      Kathy, we are so blessed to be in this community with Dr. Lando and each other! May we pass any information forward to those who need it 🙂

  • #389318

    Penny
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    • #389599

      Roxana
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      ooh! Thanks, Penny! Can’t wait to dive into this!! Do you have brilliant information on detoxing from Aluminum / shots too! Gosh, I’m so happy to be here with you all!

      • #390811

        Eliza
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        Hey ya’ll – I just found this discussion and I’d listened to the Lyme alfacast a while back…just figured I may as well record my personal experience with Lyme here – since it’s more common I think where I come from:

        toward the end of high school years one day in the summer I was alone in my yard and realized there was a tick right in the middle of my throat – like where an Adam’s apple is. I pulled it off,

        Didn’t have anyone to mention it to and I literally forgot all about it. Then a few (months? I am purposely forgetful with numbers, dates – especially ages 😉 later I was in Oregon at this snowboard training camp with mostly boys and really just ignoring the fact that my throat had the bullseye where I’d been bittem and my throat was getting more closed up with swollen glands…and I did not want to do anything about it…”I just wanted to ride man!” Haha but my Coach tricked me and told me that we were going to hit a kicker further down the park…but then told

        Me that he was driving me to the hospital. Inreally liked my coach so I went along with his trickery and the hospital visit was as traumatic and ridiculous as it is for a young female alone surrounded by a bunch of slightly older male medical students. (No female nurse in the room and they had to check for ticks – thoroughly – despite the fact that I’d told them that I’d pulled only one off a few months before…sigh…) they sent me

        Home, I took antibiotics for just a week or two…and forgot all about it again. Then a few years ago I had a really bad skin situation – “morgellons” – don’t really know if it was related although the doctor that diagnosed it (I’d not heard of morgellons) said that women my age who hsd Lyme disease – are like the most common patients…so I dunno ?‍♀️ certainly getting bit by that one tick had a very specific set of symptoms. In my case I literally was oblivious and a tomboy – so I don’t feel like I was falling for any hype. so with morgellons and with the Lyme situation it was really awkward because nobody knew what to do about it…and I was literally funneled and shuttled into different treatments without taking any agency or listening to what my

        Body was trying to tell me. Both times I was pretty “ill” but neither time I wanted to take antibiotics..but then the antibiotics did seem to work…

        Funnily enough a guy I worked for had long haul lyme (chronic Lyme I suppose) lol and I actually found for him within my company directory (a law firm network in nyc) a really expert Lyme disease specialist and he took all sorts of antibiotics and drugs for so many

        Months – trying to kill off different things over the course of like a year…he was a really healthy dude who didn’t drink alcohol and ate all organic food. He really felt Ike his jaw and other things had changed since he got Lyme disease…

        I suppose it could be a “bio weapon” – but now I wonder – could I have just “ommmm-ed away the symptoms?” I was bitten again last year and sent it to a lab and the test came back “no Lyme” and I put Gentian Violet on the spot right away…as my little personal doctor ?‍⚕️ step (something i made-up through trial and error but it worked pretty well for the morgellons lesions –

        Whatever that was….)

        Lyme certainly is one of our big mysteries! I think that Dr. Cowan recently said that no spirochete was ever found/isolated…but I guess…I never really felt in my heart a discernment that Lyme was a spirochete. It was just another of the myriad of things that I was prescribed doxycycline for throughout my life. At this point if I show more skin symptoms of something in a decade I’m just going to assume that’s doxycycline withdrawal cuz my biological development from such a young age has been inextricably intertwined with that one antibiotic – we just live in harmonious balance like those animals nesting in plastic refuse at the. Ottom of a coral

        Reef! Not ideal – but I guess…mind over matter?! Perhaps figuring out what the heck doxycycline is made out of is a good first step to getting to the bottom of this…what it’s modeled off of in nature even…

        • #392236

          Roxana
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          Thank you for sharing, Eliza!

      • #390902

        Kimberly
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        have you seen this, just came in my inbox today, have no idea who they are but thought i would post here:

        https://drtalks.com/lyme-summit-2024/

        • #392235

          Roxana
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          Thanks for the link, Kimberly!

  • #399391

    Eliza
    Member

    Related topic: first aid treatment suggestions for the location of the bite.

    <font face=”inherit”>New bite last night -totally my fault – </font>avoidable GNM sorta’ situation I am sure where I’m out of touch with my body and surroundings

    …but it causes me to consider the best practices for the TOPICAL APPROACH TO LOCATION of the bite and SYSTEM SUPPORT. I am surprised at how painful the cysts is and I would like to help my body encircle / tag / excrete any intermingled concentrated toxins that the tick spits into your skin…

    <font face=”inherit”> The spot is under my breast and I’d been sleeping during the night and it’s already a rather tender, black & blue small cyst. The tick was an adult and I’ll be bringing it to a lab. My first approaches have come-up empty…such as: </font>I currently can’t access the YummyMummy telegram chat because there is an issue with my membership – I’d paid for a year top tier in advance to have some kind of first aid resource (and ideas for a topical compress / lymphatic drainage seems on her wheelhouse). Unfortunately, the website doesn’t have any searchable results that are applicable.

    Does anybody recall a @barre approved compress sorta plan to help with this situation? Lymphatic drainage?

    At the very least I figured that at this point I’ve become a first hand tick / Lyme expert for better or worse so I wanted to share here with your post, Roxanne and friends. 🙂 love ya’ll

    • #399476

      Roxana
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      Thanks, Eliza for your share! Appreciate this group so much!

  • #399435

    Nick
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    So far as I understand it’s never proven to come from a tick bite.
    Dr Tom Cowen did a video on a couple weeks ago.
    https://rumble.com/v5gcij7-q-and-a-webinar-from-92624.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

    You could also look into the German New Medicine approach of where the symptoms come from.

    • #399456

      Erin
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      I was diagnosed with “Lyme Disease” several years ago but since hearing a talk

      On the end of covid and learning GNM principles I’m not convinced it’s caused by a bacteria from a tick bite either. It just feels like another label for a vague set of symptoms that conventional docs don’t understand, but if they label it they can treat you with antibiotics and the functional docs go crazy prescribing endless doses of supplements. I appreciate you sharing this resource from Tom Cowan.

      • #399478

        Roxana
        Member

        Erin, sorry you had to go through that journey. I tend to agree with you – as I learn more about this label, I think there is more to it than we are taught. Thanks for your post!

    • #399477

      Roxana
      Member

      Hi NIck, Thank you this share. I also believe it’s an ‘umbrella’ diagnosis and lots gets stuck under it. It’s hard for those suffering from all kinds of symptoms to let go of the label tho’. Thanks again.

      • #399479

        Erin
        Member

        Interestingly just this evening I was in a live class and the featured speaker said the best piece of advice she got after her MS diagnosis from a retired MD was “don’t accept your diagnosis”. It completely changed her trajectory in life and she healed herself on the level of her spirit and psyche. She shifted her mindset from one of fear to love and joy. I have personally downgraded or dissolved most of my chronic symptoms through acceptance of what is, then shifting my awareness to a part of my body that feels good or neutral, trusting that every symptom is part of my body’s intelligent design working to return my body to balance, and then surrendering to the unknown and trusting that the universe/source has my back. It has been so liberating reclaiming my power in this way.

      • #399487

        Nick
        Member

        Yea I know it’s hard to let go of the label. But it becomes easier when you have more knowledge. And even when you have the knowledge the biggest step is getting out of the ‘I am a victim of bad luck and only X (the doctor, a medicine, a supplement etc) external factor can cure me’ to accepting the body is intelligent and what we experience is the body trying to heal itself. Because then it comes down to you who can cure you. It’s an internal thing and not external. The only thing from outside is someone helping/guiding you on your journey. That is a lot of responsibility and especially when you put the responsibility of your health on an outside factor your whole life. Took me 5 years to really understand and do something with it. My healing only just started and it still can be hard especially when you are in pain and it prevents you from doing what you want to do. But like Erin said, it is liberating it really is. Even tho the pain and discomfort suck I look at it as a positive thing now.

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