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[gabs]

Hello all, just subscribed today and happy to be part of a likeminded community.

I have a question that’s intriguing me. I’m not familiar with isopathic remedies so after reading one of the labels of an isopathic product sold in this website I’ve got intrigued! As I understand it, an isopathic remedy, as described below in quotes, would down-regulate a pathogenic form of an organism that is present in the body into a non-pathogenic version of the same organism while also removing the organism’s effects. That suggests that some organisms or bacteria have a pathogenic form, and that down-regulating organisms that are supposed to be present to bio-remediate dead and dying tissues is similar to the conventional medicine approach. The difference is that the conventional approach simply kills the organism instead of down-regulating it, but in both situations, the organisms would cease to function as intended. Maybe I’m missing something so I would be interested to understand it better. See the label below:

“Under live cell microscopic examination in 1916, Dr. Gunther Enderlein, zoologist and microbiologist, made a unique discovery. He observed that when a non-pathogenic form of an organism found on or in the body, was prepared as a remedy and combined with changes in the milieu, it actually down-regulated the pathogenic form of like organisms to a non-pathogenic form, thus reducing or eliminating the effects of that organism in the body.”

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[Ari]

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• This reply was modified 3 months, 2 weeks ago by  Ari.

[gabs]

Thanks Ari for pointing out that video. However, it was after watching that video that I decided to look for further information and discovered the items on this website.. The way I understand Dr. Lando explanation on how isopathic remedies work, is that they downregulate the pathogenic form of some bacteria reducing or eliminating the negative effects I.E. bad symptoms experienced during illness and the reduction can be as fast as one hour in some cases. Aren’t the symptoms integral part of the healing process and down-regulating bacteria’s activity will hinder the healing process?

[Kev]

The way I see it is that pathogenic forms are both part of the healing process and a reflection of a milieu or terrain that’s just out of balance, so it’s not a hinderance, or an assault on the body to help down-regulate (e.g. as opposed to antibiotics that are like dropping nukes and killing everything).. Somewhere in all this, I feel there’s a shift that occurs in the terrain as well (when taking an isopathic).. If left unchecked, pathogenic forms can/will spiral out of control.. I know this from experience with an isopathic — I had developed oral thrush, which is white fungal plaques that grow in the mouth and on/under the tongue.. They’re extremely painful.. By textbook, this is something that would spiral out of control and become unthinkable.. The allopathic pharma approach is anti-fungal agents, which are extremely toxic.. I used the isopathic sold here called Para-Roqueforti (which I believe/recall is a combo of Candida and Penicillin).. The thrush cleared out within a week.. but note that I had also started to take tissue salts and saw a slight diminishment of the thrush immediately; but when the isopathic was added a few days later, it took only a week to resolve and hasn’t come back (that was at least 6 months ago).. By this evidence, it seems a shift in terrain occurred, as part of a bigger complex of action in addition to down-regulation.. I personally don’t think in terms of cause & effect too much anymore (if at all), or linear and dualistic thinking.. experience shows me that all things are in an integrated complex with nothing disconnected (similar in fact to the type of thinking in systems engineering).. Hope this helps.. 🐌

[gabs]

Appreciate you sharing your interesting experience using isopathic treatments, which seems to have been fairly successful.! Did you work that out all by yourself or did you have a consultation with a practician?

In terms of believing or knowing what the bacteria do and don’t do I think I’ve done nearly the full circle! From being taught that all bacteria are harmful to learning about the microbiome and the fact that some, after all, are actually necessary, to Beechamp’s work suggesting that all bacteria may be beneficial and not just to humans and simply carry out their functions, to the current understanding that certain types of bacteria can become harmful in some situation. Well, I was aware of sepsis, I’m now discovering that there may be a lot more nuanced circumstances in which bacteria can cause trouble! Finding out precisely under what conditions certain of these bacteria can turn harmful and especially how to stop that from happening will probably be my next course of action. Of course keeping a good terrain is the key but in today’s environment is easier said than done.

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[Ari]

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[gabs]

You’re raising some very interesting questions especially regarding those parasites you mentioned. Dr. Lando, he’s probably the man who can shed some light on these topics. Regarding parasites, my mother experienced a severe case of intestinal worms when she was younger. In addition to feeling the desire and emotional motivation to consume large quantities of milk every day, she was also losing weight pretty fast. Finally went to see the doctor and he gave her something to excrete what I think was a few meter long tape worm. How does that fit in with what Daniel Roytas is telling us in his parasite presentation? In that case the situation got badly out of control and the worm was causing much bigger issues than the help it was supposed to give, if any.

[Ari]

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[gabs]

Conventional medicine is saying the normal urine PH range is between 4.5 and 8 with an average between 6 and 7.5. When I used to test mine regularly and I had no issues, it was between PH5.5 and 6.5. What are you getting? Having urine below PH5 constantly may be a sign of some problem with dehydration, UTI’s, kidneys, etc. Sometime it would be helpful to have a consultation with somebody you trust. Does Dr. Lando do consultations?

[Ari]

🙂

[gabs]

Not knowing your symptoms and your history I don’t have further comments to make. The only thing I would say though, for what is worth, is that: If everything else with you is fine, having acidic urine as you described it for a short while is not a reason to concern for two motives. First we know that our body always knows best therefore it must have a good reason for temporarily keeping the urine with that PH so I would just let it be. We know that our body is compartmentalised and the PH goes from 2 in the stomach to 8.4 in the pancreas or pancreatic juices therefore the body keeps adjusting the PH as it sees fit. Second, according to mainstream sources, the urinary tract itself won’t suffer in the short to medium term [and perhaps even in the long term] if the urine PH remains at 4 or 4.5 and everything else is fine.

Taking products like bicarbonate of soda to raise the urine PH in and of itself seems to me a waste of time and possibly even counteractive same as taking some remedy to lower the blood pressure in the long term [therefore going against what the body is trying to do] without addressing the root cause of the problem. In my view giving the right minerals to the body and let it get on with it’s magic work it’s the right thing to do.

If you have history and symptoms of some kind then could be a totally different matter.

[Ari]

Thanks for sharing your insight, appreciate it 🙂

[Hulda]

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[syrinx67]

The way I see it is like a very large family. The family is all under one roof and there are a lot of kids. The parents regulate the activities of the family but you got a kid over there getting out of control. He’s pitched a fit over something and is now drawing some of the other children into his fray. There’s yelling and screaming and some stuff gets knocked over. It’s getting chaotic. (symptoms in the body)

Do you kill the child?

Of course not that would be ridiculous. But you also can’t have him wreaking havoc. Find out why he is wreaking havoc (root cause – a need not being met, getting overwhelmed by a toxin or emotion/stress) solve and support that situation and then down regulate Johnny so he is no longer having a fit over it. Get him to chill out. (symptoms dissipate)

That is my boots on the ground simple understanding of how isopathics operate.

[gabs]

Interesting analogy! That though, suggests that even while we have our unique group of inner entities that perform special operations via the [almost magical] pleomorphic cycle with each determined group to accomplish a decided action, nevertheless seems that quite often things are not getting done the appropriate manner or just getting out of hand. When a child has a tantrum, there we are, we become out of sync and require outside assistance. This is the point at which a condition may become chronic, which happens frequently now and days even when one takes all the proper precautions to address the underlying cause, such as in a fungal “infection” in the toe nails for example or gut issues etc. Personally I would have given those little entities more credit than that, more like the equivalent of a military operation since they’re capable to morph into different life forms but maybe I was overestimating them!

[Ari]

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• This reply was modified 3 months, 2 weeks ago by  Ari.

[Daniel]

Hi Gabs,

Ari’s comments aren’t showing up for me so I don’t know what video was shared already.

In addition to all of the great perspectives shared here already, I am sharing a recent Alfacast link where Barre spends basically the first hour setting a framework (with slides) to conceptualize the many dynamics at play with isopathic remedies (and the nature of reality in general)

Perhaps you’ve seen this already but sharing to make sure you’re aware of it 🙂

https://stg-alfavedic-801.uw2.rapydapps.cloud/alfacast-episode/the-secret-life-of-germs-isopathics-w-dr-barre-lando-mike-winner/

stg-alfavedic-801.uw2.rapydapps.cloud

#265 - The Secret Life Of Germs - Isopathics w/ Dr. Barre Lando & Mike Winner - Alfa Vedic™

This is a much discussed topic in past episodes of Alfacast, but today our focus will be on the indigenous elementals that dwell within, whom without, we would fail to physically thrive. 

[gabs]

Hi Daniel thanks for the link appreciate it!

I rewatched the video and around 1:20:00 minutes Dr. Lando explains how the downregulation of the isopathic works when seen through the lenses of a microscope. According to his statement, as I understand it, the isopathic treatment penicillin notatum, just to pick one, interacts with the overactive bacteria that are causing the symptoms of a general “lung infection,” for instance, and either disintegrates the overactive bacteria completely or tunes it down to a less active form, which will alleviate the symptoms.

The use of antibiotics, in the other hand, would instead kill everything in their path. Therefore, it sounds more like the isopathic approach simply treats the overactive bacteria and leaves everything else alone, either by disintegrating them completely or downregulating them to a less active state. This is very different from what antibiotics do. The traditional analogy would be the classic sniper killing a man in a crowded mall by shooting him in the head to kill him or in the leg to slow him down, as opposed to a hand grenade that causes all kinds of harm.

Dr. Lando added that the mechanism by which these bacteria become overactive may be caused by the lack of resources (minerals or nutrients, my thinking) that are required for the bacteria to perform their function. This means that the bacteria may remain in this overactive hanging mode, producing unpleasant symptoms without resolving the underlying issue.

I just wonder whether the isopathic treatment being used at this point is only alleviating the unpleasant symptoms by downregulating or getting rid of the overactive bacteria or if it is somehow supplying or producing the very resources the body lacks, which are necessary for those bacteria to complete their function and aid in addressing the underlying cause of the issue. Those resources could also be energetic and not physical. It would also be intriguing to learn the precise physical mechanism by which these overactive bacteria increase unpleasant symptoms and most likely local inflammation when they are hanging due to a lack of resources.

That video contains some fascinating information, and if I misunderstood wha Dr. Lando’s has said or missed something crucial, I would appreciate it if someone could correct me. Writing everything down helps me better understand what I’m learning.

Regarding Ari’s link not sure what happened there all his posts seem to have been edited/deleted

[Ari]

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• This reply was modified 3 months, 2 weeks ago by  Ari.

[gabs]

Interesting! What method they use to fill themselves with love and joy is something I’d like to know. Perhaps by focused attention, the love and kindness of others around such as loved ones, and/or their words.

I know it won’t work if one just thinks about it intermittently for a few minutes or even hours with the typical distracted mind that most people have. Probably the best way is to utilize focused attention for as long as possible during the day, unless you’ve been doing deep meditation for a long enough period of time and have mastered the ability to transition between different moods rather quickly. Nevertheless, your blood would already look quite decent and you wouldn’t likely have those kinds of issues if you could accomplish that!

If there were previously any physical unpleasant sensations or symptoms in the body, I wonder if the blood’s transformation into been beautiful also reduced or eliminated them entirely.

[Ari]

No technique was mentioned that I recall. As I understand the body is reflective of the state of consciousness so i think it will tend to play out whatever we put into motion, blood and otherwise. Certainly a lovely excuse to indulge in filling oneself w/ the energy of love & joy. Its a nice habit. I think the means may be varied.

[Ari]

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